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| Thread ID: 142317 | 2016-06-09 09:55:00 | Justice? | lakewoodlady (103) | PC World Chat |
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| 1421654 | 2016-06-11 03:32:00 | The state of NZ prisons for a start, where Maori make up over half the prison population but less then 5 % of the NZ population. There was a case recently where the judge sentenced 3 teenagers to community service for theft of $80000 of goods, saying you are lucky you have nice parents with good lawyers otherwise it would be jail. The beak was pretty sure they would not reoffend. I would go along with this. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1421655 | 2016-06-12 03:51:00 | The state of NZ prisons for a start, where Maori make up over half the prison population but less then 5 % of the NZ population. There was a case recently where the judge sentenced 3 teenagers to community service for theft of $80000 of goods, saying you are lucky you have nice parents with good lawyers otherwise it would be jail. Are you saying P, that the number in prison is due to white folk? |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1421656 | 2016-06-12 04:18:00 | Re Plods case the White parents would not yell out:" be strong bro" to their errant kids. | prefect (6291) | ||
| 1421657 | 2016-06-12 05:22:00 | Are you saying P, that the number in prison is due to white folk?Not at all, I can Maori bash with the best of them. The majority deserve to be there. My point is that it seems that Maori a sentences more harshly then there white counterparts for the same or similar crimes. I definitely don't believe Maori commit over half of all crime in this country, but the prison population disagrees with me | plod (107) | ||
| 1421658 | 2016-06-14 21:05:00 | I definitely don't believe Maori commit over half of all crime in this country, but the prison population disagrees with me Unfortunately Plod what you believe and the hard cold facts are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Time to stop making excuses and address the problem. |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1421659 | 2016-06-27 04:05:00 | Ok, so they got 9 years for murder thanks to Government intervention. We can only hope the "crims" deal Justice out “inside”. :mad: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1421660 | 2016-06-27 04:43:00 | Ok, so they got 9 years for murder thanks to Government intervention. We can only hope the "crims" deal Justice out “inside”. :mad: Criminal in my opine. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1421661 | 2016-06-27 05:53:00 | Ok, so they got 9 years for murder thanks to Government intervention. We can only hope the "crims" deal Justice out “inside”. :mad: The sentence was actually 17 years, with a minimum of 9 years to be served, which is quite different from 9 years - had it been 9 years, they would have been out in much less time than that. As well as being much more than a standard 9 year sentence (where they would get out on parole half way through), the parole board could hold them in prison for more than 9 years - up to 17. Secondly, the sentence was for manslaughter, not murder. Much of the current protest is based on the fact that people think the offenders are murderers, and think that should be the crime they are convicted for. Unfortunately the evidence did not support a murder conviction. Finally I have no idea what you mean by "thanks to Government intervention". Where did you get that from? |
John H (8) | ||
| 1421662 | 2016-06-27 06:19:00 | The sentence was actually 17 years, with a minimum of 9 years to be served, which is quite different from 9 years - had it been 9 years, they would have been out in much less time than that. As well as being much more than a standard 9 year sentence (where they would get out on parole half way through), the parole board could hold them in prison for more than 9 years - up to 17.Secondly, the sentence was for manslaughter, not murder. Much of the current protest is based on the fact that people think the offenders are murderers, and think that should be the crime they are convicted for. Unfortunately the evidence did not support a murder conviction.Finally I have no idea what you mean by "thanks to Government intervention". Where did you get that from?BM is on his soap box. This is the biggest sentence for manslaughter. | plod (107) | ||
| 1421663 | 2016-06-27 08:51:00 | Ok, the matter is simple. 1: the Government interfered by accepting “plea bargaining” in order to reduce their sentence from Murder. I suggest you wouldn’t find a Jury that would find them not “Not Guilty” of Murder and even if you did, it would be up to them to reduce the charge to manslaughter. 2: What do you actually have to do to get the maximum sentence for manslaughter? Remember, Manslaughter is Life Imprisonment, not 9 years! Yes, the “Spin Doctors” are using 17 years, but the reality is 9! These pricks got let off with a slap over the wrist with a wet tram ticket, courtesy of a benevolent Government which claims it can’t meddle with the Justice System, but then goes right ahead and does so. :mad: |
B.M. (505) | ||
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