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| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1421964 | 2016-06-27 04:13:00 | Yes let's do it like Venezuela. It works so much better Not! | CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1421965 | 2016-06-27 05:42:00 | My 2 cents worth... Regardless of the rights and wrongs of leaving the EU, Cameron committed a double blunder of catastrophic proportions. First, committing to a referendum with historic consequences while assuming the outcome would be what he wanted, with no real evidence to support it. Second, letting the outcome depend on a simple >50% majority. Considering the implications of the decision to leave, this was ridiculous. It should have required at least a 2/3rds majority to justify such a major change. As thing stand, the decision has been decided by the statistical noise. |
Jayess64 (8703) | ||
| 1421966 | 2016-06-27 07:32:00 | That's a bit petty. It ignores the fact that the rest of the world has the same economic problems as Europe. Look at USA, South America, even Australia, NZ, Saudi Arabia... It's hard to find any country that's thriving The fundamental problem is that we now have a global economy and the rules have to change. We haven't changed the rules, so the world has to suffer Why do the rules need to change in a global economy? Because competition no longer works. Competition is only a good thing if you are competing with someone else. The trouble is, there's no other global economy to compete with. (Mars?) If you continue to insist that competition is the way to increase wealth, you are forced to compete with yourself. Unfortunately, the losers in the competition are part of you and there are always more losers than winners. The result is a few winners (the 1%) and a huge number of losers (the 99%). It's like a family that decides to become rich by the members of the family competing against each other. Instead of the family becoming rich, one of them will become super rich and the others will wallow in poverty. Of course, the winner might decide to support the losers for the good of everyone, but the current rules of economics say that the winner is allowed to keep everything and should do that. Why 'should'? Because economic dogma is that competition must remain pure to generate wealth In other words, the economists haven't adjusted to a global economy. I'm afraid there will be a lot of suffering before they do The greedy Euro parliament has nothing to do with competition and all to to do with rorting everything they can with no consequences because they have more power than national governments. Every few weeks they all 42000 of them get on a train and move from Brussels to Strasbourg, or the other way all paid for by member countries at a phenomenal cost. That's just one of the massively wasteful things they do. Because no country could force them to overhaul the failings of said Euro parliament the people of Britain revolted and other countries are starting to wake up too, who will be next Netherlands? |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 1421967 | 2016-06-27 09:32:00 | The greedy Euro parliament.... Everybody has their favourite thing to blame - immigrants, globalisation, regulations, religion, the 1%, and in your case, greedy EU politicians. But the reason underlying all of these blames is that people are getting poorer. They don't know why things are getting worse so they lash out at anything that takes their fancy. The people voting for Trump or Farage fundamentally don't care what they are voting for. They just want something to change because change - any change - has to be better than the present. You Gary might criticise the EU for wasting money but the EU have been quite generous in supporting poorer parts of the UK. The Welsh Valleys and Cornwall for instance. You might think that the UK government would spend the money saved from the EU on these people. Ha! The UK government doesn't care about losers. Their heart lies in supporting winners ie, London. And that's why we need a new economic model - something that looks after people rather than blindly letting competition decide everything |
BBCmicro (15761) | ||
| 1421968 | 2016-06-27 09:51:00 | My 2 cents worth... Regardless of the rights and wrongs of leaving the EU, Cameron committed a double blunder of catastrophic proportions. First, committing to a referendum with historic consequences while assuming the outcome would be what he wanted, with no real evidence to support it. Second, letting the outcome depend on a simple >50% majority. Considering the implications of the decision to leave, this was ridiculous. It should have required at least a 2/3rds majority to justify such a major change. As thing stand, the decision has been decided by the statistical noise. :+1: And then he resigns leaving someone else to fix the mess. :D |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1421969 | 2016-06-27 12:42:00 | :+1: And then he resigns leaving someone else to fix the mess. :D Just like the Labour government did when they got booted out of office here?? :D |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 1421970 | 2016-06-27 21:07:00 | But the reason underlying all of these blames is that people are getting poorer. They don't know why things are getting worse so they lash out at anything that takes their fancy. The people voting for Trump or Farage fundamentally don't care what they are voting for. They just want something to change because change - any change - has to be better than the present. Just like Germany in the '30s. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1421971 | 2016-06-27 21:55:00 | An excellent explanation as to why Britain joined the EU HERE (www.youtube.com) :lol: | B.M. (505) | ||
| 1421972 | 2016-06-27 23:47:00 | Just like the Labour government did when they got booted out of office here?? :D The surplus running, successful, debt repaying Clark/Cullen government, the best one we've ever had.:devil |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
| 1421973 | 2016-06-28 00:28:00 | The surplus running, successful, debt repaying Clark/Cullen government, the best one we've ever had.:devil Exactly. |
John H (8) | ||
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