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| Thread ID: 57276 | 2005-04-28 07:25:00 | Trojon Dailer causing huge $$$ on phone bills, what do you guys think about this? | CCF (6760) | PC World Chat |
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| 349894 | 2005-04-28 08:28:00 | I agree with all the above and take note CCL of jameskan's last bit of advice, stay way from the back streets you're more likely to keep out of trouble. AFAIK toll bars don't work for the above reason and you can also keep an eye on your Dial-Up Connection box to make sure the details are what you want. Your Username and Connection and phone number. Anything odd, disconnect and thrash the comp thru yr malware programs and get CCleaner as well for an easy clean up. Get it from CCleaner. (http://www.CCleaner.com) |
mark c (247) | ||
| 349895 | 2005-04-28 08:30:00 | can you explain why a toll bar won't work? | plod (107) | ||
| 349896 | 2005-04-28 08:52:00 | A toll bar won't affect your internet connection. You don't connect to your ISP with a toll call. That's what I understood and yet the dialers appear on yr phone bill as such I know. |
mark c (247) | ||
| 349897 | 2005-04-28 08:59:00 | So a toll bar will work? | plod (107) | ||
| 349898 | 2005-04-28 09:07:00 | I mean if its not a dailer is there any other way of some one makes this long as phone call, hacker? And if its a trojon, boy it must had been a pretty damn good one, it managed to get past a AV, Firewall, Spybot, CCleaner, Window Washer, Ad-aware, HijackThis and XoftSpy. Boy :( | CCF (6760) | ||
| 349899 | 2005-04-28 09:21:00 | That's what I understood and yet the dialers appear on yr phone bill as such I know.A modem is nothing more than a phone plugged inside a computer. It will dial any number you tell it to. The 0867/0873 numbers are considered local calls by Telecom, hence they are not charged for. Note: LOCAL calls, NOT freephone - if you get charged for local calls (i.e. business or budget line rental 0867/0873 will cost). Just like you could pick up a phone and dial the 0867 number to your internet provider, the modem can be instructed to pick up the line and dial a toll call. Nothing complicated about it. A toll bar will successfully prevent outbound toll calls and by association rogue dialer calls. As for the end user, you can't expect Telecom to wear the cost of it. They have to pay the termination costs and transfer fees for the toll call so there is cost to them - your computer security is not their responsibility. Also, dialers are not spyware and not viruses. They will not necessarily get picked up by SpyWare/AV software. A firewall won't do diddly-dick about them and in spite of Telecom's best efforts to convince people other wise, Xtra can't block them. It also isn't the ISP's fault though Telecom often foist it off onto the ISP - no point ringing and bitching them out either. As said, chances are someone (possibly children in school holidays) has been out on the warez/porn trail and clicked yes to something they shouldn't have. Dialers are usually pretty explicit that they are going to install and it is going to cost you, unfortunately most people just blindly hit Yes on anything that prompts them without reading it. Very few dialers actually install user unknownst. http://www.0900info.co.nz/ - might be of use. Don't try and fix it yourself, take it somewhere and get it looked at. Best bet would probably be to get it flattened and reinstalled - tidy up anything else at the same time. Ask people for recommendations as to who to take it to, as their are craploads of cowboys out there ripping consumers blind in the computer repair industry. |
ninja (1671) | ||
| 349900 | 2005-04-28 09:27:00 | Thank you ninja. Though I'm sure I read it in article in PCWorld maybe a year or so ago by Geoff Palmer. | mark c (247) | ||
| 349901 | 2005-04-28 09:30:00 | and thank you again.. | plod (107) | ||
| 349902 | 2005-04-28 09:42:00 | I mean if its not a dailer is there any other way of some one makes this long as phone call, hacker? And if its a trojon, boy it must had been a pretty damn good one, it managed to get past a AV, Firewall, Spybot, CCleaner, Window Washer, Ad-aware, HijackThis and XoftSpy. Boy :( don't forget a dailer can be a legit program so AV, adaware etc won't pick it up. odds are someone let it through the firewall. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 349903 | 2005-04-28 09:44:00 | Thank you ninja . Though I'm sure I read it in article in PCWorld maybe a year or so ago by Geoff Palmer . Yes but ninja didnt get paid for his post . Very nice post Ninja . No ambiguity, straight to the point . With that effort it should be plastered somewhere easy to find on Pressf1 possibly as a FAQ under "Trojan Diallers" . |
sam m (517) | ||
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