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Thread ID: 88260 2008-03-21 03:20:00 Kaspersky vs Nod32 Deluxe (13521) Press F1
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651311 2008-03-23 11:26:00 - additional software bring along bugs -> even the ZA is famous for this bugs (email-filter and so on)
- normal user can't handle a personal firewall, he dont how to configurate a firewall,
- normal user can't interpret the messages
- wrong danger messages, personal firewalls also give alarm if you get a new ip (dynamic ips) and the previous user use applications like edonkey for example-> you get messages about avialable shares
- change the behaviour of Windows -> some programms or apllications should not work
- some pfw save their configuration in world writable files
- scans internet traffic-> easy to spy out
- non personalised coding-> easy to spy out
- condifential files are saved central -> easy to spy out
- IDS works really bad
- trouble with ICMP blocking
- malware deactivates the personal firewall
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Better is to deactivate non used applications.
Personal Firewalls are only essential in networks (WLAN and so on).
Crow1985 (6683)
651312 2008-03-23 11:50:00 en.wikipedia.org Crow1985 (6683)
651313 2008-03-24 08:33:00 - additional software bring along bugs -> even the ZA is famous for this bugs (email-filter and so on)
- normal user can't handle a personal firewall, he dont how to configurate a firewall,
- normal user can't interpret the messages
- wrong danger messages, personal firewalls also give alarm if you get a new ip (dynamic ips) and the previous user use applications like edonkey for example-> you get messages about avialable shares
- change the behaviour of Windows -> some programms or apllications should not work
- some pfw save their configuration in world writable files
- scans internet traffic-> easy to spy out
- non personalised coding-> easy to spy out
- condifential files are saved central -> easy to spy out
- IDS works really bad
- trouble with ICMP blocking
- malware deactivates the personal firewall
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.
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Better is to deactivate non used applications .
Personal Firewalls are only essential in networks (WLAN and so on) .
I will concead to some of those but the fact that ZA etc can stop numerous programs that have no need to access the net outweights the disadvantages and it can alert you to malware on the PC . Some users do take some training .
mikebartnz (21)
651314 2008-04-03 21:56:00 Personally I rate NOD32 over Kaspersky. Both have excellent records in spotting known viruses, but NOD32 has better heuristics, and much more importantly IMO, has a much lower impact on system performance. Kaspersky feels like a system hog, while I barely notice NOD32.

What people also seem to forget is that NOD32 is anti-spyware as well as anti-virus, so if you choose to use it consider turning off the Windows Defender real-time scanning. You don't have multiple real-time scanners for AV, and I don't think it's wise to do so for spyware either.

I wouldn't bother with Smart Security though, it gives you a firewall and anti-spam. The later is included in almost every e-mail client in the last seven years, while the Windows firewall has been all you've ever needed on the software side since Windows XP SP2 was released. Stick with the plain old NOD32 anti-virus/anti-spyware solution.

I'm a little dubious about the NOD32 HTTP protection though. Since it wants to identify web browsers, it should have asked or scanned for them during setup, not hide it in a config page you need to stumble across!

Oh, and make sure you configure your virus-scanner exclusions for Windows in line with Microsoft's recommendations: support.microsoft.com I'm mystified as to why AV programs aren't setting this kind of stuff up by default, it's not like the guidelines are changing on a daily basis or anything.
Quitch (13525)
651315 2008-04-04 02:49:00 Nothing is absolute. Cracked versions of Kaspersky do not last long compared to Nod32. Put it this way I have not found cracked Kaspersky to last. They're closing the loop very fast.

I take it you are talking about cracked (pirated) software rather than a vulnerability in the software itself, i.e. you are not talking about the efficay and robustness of the software in doing it's primary job.

On that note, I see more vulnerabilities coming out of the Secunia alerts for Kaspersky that NOD32.


Deluxe, I agree with pctek re suites vs standalone. Another advantage is that you're less at risk of one vulnerability in the software rendering the whole lot useless. Standalone every time for me.
Murray P (44)
651316 2008-04-04 05:38:00 Get bitdefender rated number 1 in top ten antivirus website. JUST INSANE (6682)
651317 2008-04-04 05:56:00 Dont believe everything you read or see on sites.

Till you've tried it yourself

They used to say the same thing with Nortons. Look what happened to that.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
651318 2008-04-04 06:26:00 Who said to believe what every one says. Me and my friends all use BD so we get good feedbacks on the product. Norton was behind since the start of its life. Slow speed, less features. We only accept proven results. JUST INSANE (6682)
651319 2008-04-04 06:50:00 Who said to believe what every one says. Me and my friends all use BD so we get good feedbacks on the product. Norton was behind since the start of its life. Slow speed, less features. We only accept proven results. Iv'e know people who had Bit Defender to get viruses that others Like Nod have picked up, and no doubt the reverse has also happened. At the end of the day you can take 10 different tests from different places and you will get 10 different results.

One thing that is happening to a lot of the AV's is they are becoming bloatware, Norton is a prime example.

I did a test myself a while back last year, I had an image of a customers infected drive, so I could replicate the exactly each scan with the same infections, I installed on different images 1 at a time the following AV's : Norton, AVG, Avast, Nod32, Bitdefender,Trend Micro,McAfee, kaspersky, Sophos

Updated them all - and ran a full in depth scan changing the settings of each AV to their best detection. Let them run and recorded the results.

Nod32 Detected the most , followed by Avast, then as slow as it was Norton, then AVG and Sophos.

If you want to look at test reports, Download this PDF (www.av-comparatives.org) Its from December 2007
wainuitech (129)
651320 2008-04-04 07:06:00 True Nod 32 is not bad. I used it for one year but i quit as im tired of it since you can't shut it off during heavy applications such as gaming or video editing. I say BD gamer mod is good JUST INSANE (6682)
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