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| Thread ID: 57524 | 2005-05-05 05:45:00 | ISO Standards 9000 / 14000 or similar | CreightonBrown (5692) | PC World Chat |
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| 352294 | 2005-05-05 05:45:00 | Questions: 1] Does it cost to get certified? 2] Does the information standards to get certified always cost like on iso.org? 3] Is there any systems or computer packages anyone knows of, maybe list them all, which Help with achieving or administering ISO Standards? Thank you. |
CreightonBrown (5692) | ||
| 352295 | 2005-05-05 06:31:00 | Yes it costs, user pays and all that. Talk to TELARC and IANZ http://www.telarc.co.nz/ www.ianz.govt.nz |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 352296 | 2005-05-05 09:33:00 | Why bother! I worked for a large company that went through the process and the only effect in getting certified was that it produced reams and reams of paper. We still produced crap but we had a bit of paper to say it was quality crap. | tutaenui (1724) | ||
| 352297 | 2005-05-05 09:40:00 | Why bother! I worked for a large company that went through the process and the only effect in getting certified was that it produced reams and reams of paper. We still produced crap but we had a bit of paper to say it was quality crap. Thats right now your crap is consistant and have the paper work to prove it. We looked into it a couple of years ago and the only benefit we could see is that you have more chance certified companys doing buisness with you.Does not prove quality all it proves is that you do things to a certain standard all the time no matter how good or bad it is. |
plod (107) | ||
| 352298 | 2005-05-05 14:21:00 | I have observed at least two companies considering and going through ISO accreditation. It looked like bullsh*t to me. It was just documentation of processes, but not analysing, optimising or otherwise changing any processes. What use is that? It cost them a lot of money though. | vinref (6194) | ||
| 352299 | 2005-05-05 21:44:00 | The effectiveness of ISO is entirely dependent on the companies committment to the process. In a correctly used environment ISO is a valuable tool that will ensure quality. In an incorrect environment it is seen as an unneccesary encumberance. If you are making concrete lifejackets under ISO, then you are not using it correctly. |
godfather (25) | ||
| 352300 | 2005-05-05 21:52:00 | Whether you need ISO certification depends entirely on what you want to do - some countries require certification as a requirement for importing product. I don't understand why you are lumping all ISO standards together - 9000 and 14000 are two entirely different processes (quality and environmental). You may find that they can be used as non fiscal trade barriers by some countries. |
d.murray (276) | ||
| 352301 | 2005-05-05 22:09:00 | Whether you need ISO certification depends entirely on what you want to do - some countries require certification as a requirement for importing product. I don't understand why you are lumping all ISO standards together - 9000 and 14000 are two entirely different processes (quality and environmental). You may find that they can be used as non fiscal trade barriers by some countries. I lumped them together because I was learning about them, I got a small amount of info on iso.org but thought a post on here might answer some questions and give more information about it. Thanks |
CreightonBrown (5692) | ||
| 352302 | 2005-05-06 02:26:00 | If this offends anyone, so be it! Rubbishing ISO accreditation just demonstrates complete ignorance of Quality Assurance, and such statements are worthless. Thus speaks the retired expert on the topic, from the days of AID (Aircraft Inspectorate Department), through BS 0524 Mil Specs, and to DSIR and Telarc, and years educating NZ industry on QA, much of which effort now seems to have gone down the tubes :horrified I forgot to add: He's The Last Word (www.redhotjazz.com) , I have thus spoke :thumbs: |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 352303 | 2005-05-06 03:10:00 | Yeah, but does the ISO actually help in analysis and optimisation of processes? | vinref (6194) | ||
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