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| Thread ID: 57491 | 2005-05-04 03:39:00 | Opera 8 Better Than Firefox 1.0.3? | vinref (6194) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 351985 | 2005-05-04 12:50:00 | When a website doesn't work, it's not the fault of the browser, it's the fault of the person who designed the site for not testing it. I find firefox does a better job at displaying css. It would be nice if all browsers displayed the same code in the same way, that would save designers a lot of trouble. You are right. In most circumstances where there was a difference in rendering between FF103 and Opera8, it was because Opera8 was tolerant of bad, non-standard XHTML. Personally I have plenty of storage and ram and I continue to use both. |
vinref (6194) | ||
| 351986 | 2005-05-04 13:06:00 | Personally, Firefox is a better rounded browser. Opera has always been a very quick browser, but it seems a bit empty (not feature wise, in different ways). In the past I have had a bit of trouble with Firefox straight out of the box (even 1.0.1), but thanks to its high configurability its been really easy to tailor to my needs and system. So for me, Fx remains my default. |
sal (67) | ||
| 351987 | 2005-05-04 15:39:00 | is there a noticable speed difference? Yes. It is very fast. I use the M3 build. :) |
vapo (5203) | ||
| 351988 | 2005-05-04 22:22:00 | re: MOOX is there a noticable speed difference? Definitely. It feels snappy. It also works with your favorite extensions. What I like about Firefox is you can tailor it too your needs by adding the extensions you want. However, it does the job well for most without any extensions. |
KiwiTT_NZ (233) | ||
| 351989 | 2005-05-05 03:18:00 | Linux uses more dynamic linking than Windows? Almost all OSs live by (and sometimes die by) dynamic linking . It's the only way to ensure (if properly done) that all its components work consistently . A Windows "DLL" is a Dynamically Linked Library . A library is a collection of subroutines which perform operations for programmes . When an error is discovered in a library routine, it can be fixed . Once it's fixed, and the new library file has been installed, all affected programmes immediately start using the corrected version . This is because the loading process causes the dynamic linking . Statically linked programmes would need to be relinked . Some would inevitably be missed, and the OS would gradually collapse . Dynamic linking means that big OSs can be maintained . The *nix libraries are probably a better implemantation than the MS DLL system . Third party programmers for Windows have a bad history of supplying new "improved" versions of the MS DLLs, to make their own programmes work . The testing of such rogue DLLs has often not been very careful . And as soon there are multiple DLL files scattered around the disk, all with the same name, you have an unreliable OS . Any programme which has its routines staticly linked can have its bugs, theoretically without harming the OS . As soon as someone makes his own "fixed" version of a system DLL he can wreck the whole system . *nix libraries have only one version in use at any time . There may be a number of versions of a particular library on the disk, but there's only one symbolic link . That's what the loader looks at, and it follows that link to the one version which is current . The space saving from not including the library code in executables is significant, but it's the ability to maintain consistency which is most important . There is an overhead when a programme is loaded: the loader has to resolve all references, and load any DLLs which aren't already resident . |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 351990 | 2005-05-05 06:43:00 | Definitely . It feels snappy . It also works with your favorite extensions . What I like about Firefox is you can tailor it too your needs by adding the extensions you want . However, it does the job well for most without any extensions . wicked, i might have to try it soon :thumbs: |
Prescott (11) | ||
| 351991 | 2005-05-05 13:47:00 | I use the MOOX (http://www.moox.ws) version specific to my processor and used firetune to tune up other parameters( which you can do manually anyhow). And I am satisfied with the performance. I compile my own to match my processor as well amongst other things, and I use no plugins at all. But Opera is not compile by me, and is still faster - maybe for the reason that Graham L mentioned. Do you know what bits firetune tweaks? I have done some manual tweaking myself, but I am interested if firetune does any more. |
vinref (6194) | ||
| 351992 | 2005-05-05 22:05:00 | nglayout.initialpaint.delay = 0, plus what tweak network settings extension does. | KiwiTT_NZ (233) | ||
| 351993 | 2005-05-05 23:02:00 | What KiwiTT_NZ has pointed is pretty much the key reason why Opera seems to be a faster browser. CHange that preference in firefox and you'll notice a difference. | Jeremy (1197) | ||
| 351994 | 2005-05-06 05:23:00 | Did all the tweaks with firefox.I still do not see any faster performance! | Ninjabear (2948) | ||
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