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Thread ID: 57999	2005-05-18 09:35:00	Tables websites should die	ad_267 (6193)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
356342	2005-05-22 00:15:00	Criticisms/comments: www . mcs . geek . nz Looks terrible on Opera . Haven't got Firefox installed so can't check on that . Horizontal scrollbar even on my 1280x1024 monitor - a big no-no . Strange how "Links" are at the top of the page enticing the reader away before they have a chance to even look at the rest of the page . I didn't check the code . . . will take the others' word for it .	FoxyMX (5)
356343	2005-05-22 01:55:00	In opera the "about mcs" and "links" go to the right of the heading table. I can't really tell you how to fix this because the code is such a mess and I can't be bothered trying to sort out whats happening.	ad_267 (6193)
356344	2005-05-22 03:08:00	Hmm, well, I knew it wasn't brilliant. First webpage I ever did. I don't have any webpage software, my bother sold his older version of Dreamweaver. Pity. As for code, ahem, couldn't write HTML to save myself. It looks ok via Mozilla and a friend said it didn't have any obvious glitches in IE. Sorry Opera. Its not in the budget yet but eventually I'll get someone pro to do it properly. And yes I did use Word. :blush:	pctek (84)
356345	2005-05-22 09:58:00	I find that if I have a div 80% wide, then a table inside that at 100% wide, the table goes to 100% of the page, not the div. Very annoying.	mejobloggs (264)
356346	2005-05-22 20:12:00	Personally I find CSS sometimes seems to make strange errors when being used in tables. Especially when you use Opera, which is meant to be a pure reader of CSS.	netchicken (4843)
356347	2005-05-22 20:19:00	You don't need a professional to do it. Learn to make a page yourself its an easy one. In about 2 hours you would have learned the skills needed. Then you can make as many pages as you like, for free. Take a wet saturday, download a free simple program, and make a better page. Its not in the budget yet but eventually I'll get someone pro to do it properly. And yes I did use Word. :blush:	netchicken (4843)
356348	2005-05-22 21:17:00	You don't need a professional to do it. Learn to make a page yourself its an easy one. In about 2 hours you would have learned the skills needed. Nah, HTML is too much like programming which I loathed. Thats why I became a tech - I could find dreamweaver I suppose...but nah, as I said, I'll get a pro to do it sometime, I'd want to change the way it works anyway...or I should say have them change it... I just thought I'd get a proper opinion as you ask friends and they all say "its lovely".	pctek (84)
356349	2005-05-22 23:19:00	Looks terrible on Opera . Haven't got Firefox installed so can't check on that . Horizontal scrollbar even on my 1280x1024 monitor - a big no-no . PCTec, Please make our "Expert fiddler" happy by reducing the width of your tables containing the desciptions of your products and services . As far as i can see thats whats keeping the page wider than peoples screens . However its hard to tell because there is so much bollocky dribble in the code! MS word is the worst webmaking software i have ever seen . There's possably 5 times the code thats needed behind that very simple page . Even the Open Office suites very token web designing software is far ahead of MSword! And please please remove the flashing email graphic . It makes it look like a tacky geocities template site from last century! :yuck:	personthingy (1670)
356350	2005-05-22 23:28:00	Hmmm....I don't get a horizontel scrollbar......	Metla (12)
356351	2005-05-23 00:25:00	Hmmm....I don't get a horizontel scrollbar......Really? Well here's what i see: millerton.co.nz OS = Mepis, basic installation browser = firefox, screen = 1024x768 And i just realised what the problem is. This page was designed to be 1024 pixels wide exactly. Because a vertical scrollbar cuts in and reduces the effective width, a horizontal scrollbar joins the party! :D	personthingy (1670)
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