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| Thread ID: 58041 | 2005-05-19 16:25:00 | BSA: Software Piracy 'Costs money' Reality Check: What if....... | CreightonBrown (5692) | PC World Chat |
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| 356805 | 2005-05-20 04:41:00 | And who listens to what Clark says?? | Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 356806 | 2005-05-20 04:57:00 | The labour party? Shes a mean looking guy at the best of times...... :D |
Metla (12) | ||
| 356807 | 2005-05-20 04:59:00 | Many developers of OS software also gain recognition in the industry for their voluntary endeavours, which can lead to paid demand for their skills. Businesses built around OS make money largely through training and support, which is the model used by a lot of proprietary vendors/developers as well. That the BSA, RIIA, et al, have any credibility is not surprising, just a source of wonder and frustration at the ignorance, greed and gullibility of those that buy in to their aggenda's and associated fraud. |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 356808 | 2005-05-20 05:03:00 | The labour party? Shes a mean looking guy at the best of times...... :D I've always wondered at the resemblance to Piggy Muldoon, apart from the obvious height difference and cup size, that is. |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 356809 | 2005-05-20 05:05:00 | Many developers of OS software also gain recognition in the industry for their voluntary endeavours, which can lead to paid demand for their skills. Businesses built around OS make money largely through training and support, which is the model used by a lot of proprietary vendors/developers as well. That the BSA, RIIA, et al, have any credibility is not surprising, just a source of wonder and frustration at the ignorance, greed and gullibility of those that buy in to their aggenda's and associated fraud. I agree it is important to reward people who make gains, at the same time though the system should also be designed to ensure that the gains aren't at the cost of inhibiting other gains by what may be biased to one end e.g. CopyRIGHT, and at the other end CopyLEFT that a solution would be CopyFAIR. ipaction.org is starting to present ideas, that this is becomming an issue. As intellect increases changes and improves are made as solutions are found to problems, what i would suspect is laws are designed to accomodate and worth with those concerned at the time. As people become more educated, capable or so forth, they may realise that there could be better ways to go about things, as one has enhanced ability to reason |
CreightonBrown (5692) | ||
| 356810 | 2005-05-20 05:06:00 | The developers of open source software are not "missing out", because they never expected to be paid, reimbursed, rewarded or even recognised for their work. This is the ethos of open source. They do get the satisfaction out of people who use and perpetuate their work though. Now and then they get personal thanks from users as well. Most open source developers also have a political wish to install standards for computing, and the vast majority of open source works conform to established standards. Agreed. The argument against piracy/copying is that the developer misses out on being paid for their work. Personthingy wondered (cheekily) who missed out with open-source? |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 356811 | 2005-05-20 05:20:00 | Agreed. The argument against piracy/copying is that the developer misses out on being paid for their work. Personthingy wondered (cheekily) who missed out with open-source? I think we need to seperate issues: Open Source, implies the source is open, this may have implications of licencing or public viewing of code. 1A] Licencing If one wants to charge then open source may be counter productive as the licencing means may be taken out 1B] Charging Psychology, economically or other scales, it may be be highlighted people do things for rewards. If the reward is more significant the more gains may be me made. This is not to say that open source or free coding is not plausable [the issues need to be seperated better], but it highlights that with only limited incentive, or more limited, there may be more limited rewards or developments, not to say this will or will not be the limit. 1C] Charging issue An potential discrepency is that charges are made to such a fashion that they do not help people licence but may prevent obtainment of knowledge and may manifest in breaches of the policy or standard because it was not designed to allow for such implied people to have a recourse of an option to comply in such a fashion that it was feasible, a reasonable sense, not copyright sense, copyfair sense 2] Viewing of code Some may claim viewing of code makes security hazards more obvious. Whether it is a pay model, free model or otherwise this is a concern. |
CreightonBrown (5692) | ||
| 356812 | 2005-05-20 05:38:00 | I am ubsubscribing from this thread, it seemed relatively sound compared to some others I have had but feel it lacks that of knowledge development or trying to improve which was my intetion, [I may check back later sometime potentially] | CreightonBrown (5692) | ||
| 356813 | 2005-05-20 05:59:00 | DRM makes Software Pirates | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 356814 | 2005-05-20 06:41:00 | DRM makes Software Pirates But for DRM to work really well, you need the ability to patent ideas rather than things. Copyright ain't enough for some people, they want and have it all. |
Murray P (44) | ||
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