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Thread ID: 58754 2005-06-11 03:59:00 Computers in Schools: Bad, Not So Bad, or Mostly Good? Strommer (42) PC World Chat
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362933 2005-06-11 03:59:00 Many of you will remember a long-lasting PF1 thread on this topic, I believe started by a star PF1er ("Beetle", referring to preschools). Last week I read somewhere on the net that a major study done in a number of countries has shown an overall detrimental effect of computers in schools. Sorry, I cannot locate this article, but I do recall that the research was substantial / impressive.

Here (www.geek.com)
is an article, with commentary, that you may find of interest:
High-tech parents put kids in low-tech schools

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Strommer (42)
362934 2005-06-11 04:08:00 makes sence.

its not so much having pc's in schools but how they are used. there is no subsitute for learning the basics the old fashioned way.

try asking a kid to add a shopping bill up without useing a calculator, or write a post in a forum without useing a spell check or useing "net speak".
tweak'e (69)
362935 2005-06-11 04:14:00 The research is summarized in this month's PC Authority magazine.

Having a computer at home had a negative effect on kids' learning. Having more than 500 books in the home had a positive effect.

The reasons are obvious to me, and the "Search Engine Dependence Syndrome" recently described might be linked. This is mentioned in the latest "comp.risks" newsgroup digest, with a link to the original presentation describing the syndrome at Cliniscience.com (www.cliniscience.com/objects/Cliniscience%20TEPR.pdf).
Graham L (2)
362936 2005-06-11 06:33:00 To me its plainly obvious that computers + kids does not equal learning.

The inference that it DOES is faulty (and probably a fallacy created by kids wantng computers, and sales people trying to hock them off to gullible parents, like encyclopedia salesmen of old. )

Its just like the TV + kids does not equal learning equation. Would anyone expect it otherwise?
netchicken (4843)
362937 2005-06-11 07:04:00 Having a computer at home had a negative effect on kids' learning . Having more than 500 books in the home had a positive effect .

Phew! My kids were well balanced . Several computers balanced by 2000 books .

I totally believe that kids should learn to type and have basic computer skills whilst at high school as they may never again get the opportunity to learn these . Just about every job from tyre changer to judge needs these skills .

There again I once talked to a maths teacher who was horrified by one of his student's geography computer generated assignments . Top marks from the geo teacher cause it looked pretty but all the graphs were total garbage .

Computer knowledge is not everything . Now where did I put that slide rule?
Mercury (1316)
362938 2005-06-11 07:11:00 A computer can be a good learning tool, but it's certainly not a necessity. Jeremy (1197)
362939 2005-06-11 07:24:00 Computers are only detrimental in school environments when they are not regulated, or access to them is given freely without control. They can be great learning tools, such as for composing music or learning to read.

Their impact is only negative when they are a distraction - and in a properly controlled environment, such as a school, this should never be the case.
Growly (6)
362940 2005-06-11 07:55:00 Now where did I put that slide rule?
Don't lose it, Mercury. I keep a small one nearby - often quicker to get an answer on it than keying the numbers into a pocket calc.

(And I'll bet Terry hangs onto one ...)
TonyF (246)
362941 2005-06-11 08:39:00 One side of my brain looks at those results in a totally different way.
Maybe the kids' results have less to do with actual computers & books but more to do with their parents?
The kind of parents who own ( and presumably read) lots of books are more likely to help & encourage their offspring to learn than parents who prefer to buy them a computer.
Maybe it's a parental attitude thing as much as what the kids actually do with either kind of tool?.
Laura (43)
362942 2005-06-11 09:19:00 Basicly, kids are leaving school without the ability to do simple arithmetic or to spell somewhere near correctly.
It's my opinion that calculators and computers should be banned from all primary schools. Children must be taught the basics before all else.
JJJJJ (528)
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