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Thread ID: 58610 2005-06-06 04:53:00 Restoring/ repairing old airgun JimboJones (1680) PC World Chat
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361629 2005-06-07 08:52:00 Right, I'll clean off the rust with Inox and try to melt the pellets with bore cleaner? Name plz. I havn't thought about the wooden shoulder butt, it has some indents here and there, but I'll polish it with Linseed oil:)

Elephant, I think its a .177 cal rifle, the pellets are like a funny mushroom with a nozzle. To fire the rifle, I have to bend the barrel to compress the air then its a single shot. Whats BSA?

I just remembered the barrel is bent up abit, so the aims off, thats strange cause both the front and back part of the iron sight is on the barrel itself. I'll try and get pics of it for you guys to see, I want to see if I can mount a scope on it:D
JimboJones (1680)
361630 2005-06-07 09:14:00 Elephant, I think its a .177 cal rifle, the pellets are like a funny mushroom with a nozzle. To fire the rifle, I have to bend the barrel to compress the air then its a single shot.

Whats BSA? British Standard Arms I think. Has your rifle got grooves for telecopic mounting? If no grooves then unlikely I would think. What make and model are we thinking about here. In New Zealand we have been exposed to BSA, Crossman and also various Chinese, Russian and Chek models.

I just remembered the barrel is bent up abit, so the aims off, thats strange cause both the front and back part of the iron sight is on the barrel itself. I'll try and get pics of it for you guys to see, I want to see if I can mount a scope on it pressf1.pcworld.co.nz
Elephant (599)
361631 2005-06-07 11:32:00 BSA is the acronym for "British Small Arms"

They also made motorcycles!

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
361632 2005-06-08 06:33:00 How can all this ignorance of our Imperial history exist?

"Birmingham Small Arms . "

They also made motorless cycles . ;) One of their finest products was the Territorial Bicycle which they produced about 1910 which was a bicycle with a . 303 rifle mounted on the front pipe of the diamond frame .

The standard airgun bores are . 177" and . 22" .

Putting the wrong sort of oil in the piston area can cause dieseling . That is "compression ignition" . It is not recommended . It won't shift the jammed slugs . , just jam them tighter . Hitting them with a drift won't do much good either .

I would get the biggest twist drill which will go through the bore with a bit of clearance and braze it to a 1/8" steel filler rod . Then some drilling (with frequent clearing of the flutes) will get them out . It won't clear any rifling, but they are prubably so shallow it won't matter . A small PK screw thread part on an extension to twist into the back of each slug in turn might grip enough to get them out one at a time .
Graham L (2)
361633 2005-06-08 07:38:00 Notice how the barrel is bent up.
Any chance of a scope?

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JimboJones (1680)
361634 2005-06-08 08:36:00 What are you planning to shoot with it? FoxyMX (5)
361635 2005-06-08 08:47:00 waste of time putting a scope on it. it dosn't look like it has any grooves for the scope mounts and with a bent barrell like that you will never be able to adjust the scope enough to get it to shoot on target.

use it as is and if it packs up throw it out and get something decent.

also check why the barrell is bent and if the barrell is meeting flush with the spring tube.
tweak'e (69)
361636 2005-06-08 08:48:00 Looks exactly the same as the one I used to have . I used it so much round the small farm where we used to live, that my dad reckoned he could start a lead mine and retire .

The idea of using the drill is OK but you will have to be careful not to damage the barrel . The drill is harder than the barrel so it will come off second best . If it where me, (and I think I can recall having this problem myself), I would get a brass rod long enough to reach the end of the barrel preferably as close to the diameter of the bore as possible and (this is going to sound rough but) give the rod a good bash with a ball pein hammer . The slugs and the brass are softer than the barrel so less chance of damage even giving it a good whack . Try to push them out the end which will be the least distance for the slugs to go . A healthy dowsing with WD40/CRC or what ever down the bore would be a good idea as the bore may be a bit rusted up, and the rust is going to cause some resistance on the slugs when you try to push them out . Don’t be afraid to hit it hard either . In my experience, if you tend to get further and do less damage if you show it who’s boss . You will know if its going to work by the first or second bash . It should 'feel' like its moving/going to move if you keep going . If nothing happens or it doesn't "feel" right, then go to plan B (drill) .

As for the slight bend, I wouldn't worry about it . Just adjust the sights till you hit what you’re aiming at . Won't be able to use a scope though (using conventional attachment methods) .

Good luck
craigb (4884)
361637 2005-06-10 06:27:00 Hi Jimbo,
Am joining this thread rather late, but have a couple of suggestions that may help. I have had a lot to do with rifles "leading up" as I am a smallbore target shooter, and from time to time, shooters have had to deal with the removal of a lead build up in the bore of their rifles. A product called Hoppes No 9 will soften the lead, hopefully enough to allow to be driven out to the closest end. Failing that, if you can get hold of some mercury, pour down the bore from the muzzle end, this will disolve the lead pellets. A warning, mercury is extremely dangerous if absorbed through the skin, or the fumes inhaled, so take appropriate precautions I do not know where you would obtain mercury, a chemist may be able to help.
Good luck.
RNY.
rny (6943)
361638 2005-06-11 02:52:00 Don't even dream of using mercury, even if you could get it.

Lead buildup in the bore of firearms caused by use is probably removable with special products. This is a jammed mass of slugs due to abuse. ;)

How far are they into the bore? If it's less than a couple of inches, you might be able to snag them one at a time with a "superscrew". (Put a washer under the head to protect the seal face of the barrel from the countersink flutes.).
Graham L (2)
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