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Thread ID: 59256	2005-06-26 02:43:00	HDTV THREAT?	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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367131	2005-06-26 02:43:00	How is NZ set for the changeover to HDTV? Here in the US, there's a definate maybe for a cutoff time to end analog tv broadcast, either the end of this or the next year . Yet the sales of analog tv's goes on at severly reduced prices . What cost over $500 (US) last month or so, has dropped to $129 . 95 (US) . The sets are being gobbled up by people who don't know that after such and such a date they will be recieving NOTHING! The US has allocated the olde channels/frequencies for much needed national defense (really) in the wake of 911 . At least that's the official statement, albeit there is some truth of a crowded spectrum here . Actually, the Feds are going to make a lot of cash selling to the highest bidder the frequencies in the new areas that up to this point have been consummed by bandwidtrh hungry and wasteful tv analog broadcasts . (Can you say: "Qualcomm"?) The cutoff date seems to be pressured by the Chinese and the other electronics firms (Phillips is now a Chinese consortium) to be forced to a rapid forclosure and the necessary investments by citizens who have tv's from date 1946 to current who will need to replace them with the new digital systems . There is a mean spirited financially driven tiger here that is damning all the torpedoes and full steam ahead ala Halsey that puts the onus of the changeover back of those people who cannot ($$$) or will not switch for the sake of a 3rd world-cum-new-tech-leader, ie China . There is a lot of saber rattling going on, and the circles are lining up to meet this changeover with ferocity . Imaging telling your 88 year old grandmother that she's gonna have to learn to program a digital tuner and not just spin a dial to get her soaps . :badpc: How goes it there, in NZ?	SurferJoe46 (51)
367132	2005-06-26 02:55:00	As far as I know there is no current plans drawn up for high definition transmission,hence no HD-TV's. The only thing on the horizen that would make use of them are the next generation consoles, Which i cant see having any impact (well,measarble impact anyhow) Most people I have talked to have never even heard of the concept, (thats outside this forum of course)	Metla (12)
367133	2005-06-26 02:56:00	were still using normal tvs but the prices have came down alot in the past few years	sambaird (47)
367134	2005-06-26 02:57:00	it won't be to bad . those with older sets will just run a settop box just like your normal sat decoders . mind you the good thing will be finally getting rid of that god awfull NTSC system . only reason it was kept is because there wasn't enough benifit in changeing the countrys tv's untill now . as far as NZ goes, we won't see anything here very quickly . with NZ terrian landbased didgtal broadcast is difficult and the cost of changing would not be worth it . there wouldn't be enough people wanting the quailty to justify the cost . saterlite is the best way to go, however unless the goverment forces everyone to use a certain sytem (ie make all free to air channels advailable by sat) then its going to be a real headache . don't forget if bigboy telstra pulled out at the last minute . NZ is just to small to have half dozen competeing companies, exspecially if they all use different systems . as much as i hate to say so, with nz's small number of veiwers the tv systems really need to be dictated by goverment rather than private . the other catch is how long before the next new techno comes along and forces a change?	tweak'e (69)
367135	2005-06-26 03:01:00	We'll probably follow the brilliant method used in the UK. The digital TV introduction was given to the commercials. They pushed as many channels as possible into the expensive bandwidth. Half of the receivers couldn't handle the number of channels, because the chipset choice was "confused". The companies ran out of money. Now the BBC is having a go, with half as many channels. :) NZ always waits to be convinced that some new technology, educational theory, economiic theory, trade relations policy, etc, has failed completely in a few other countries, then adopts it.	Graham L (2)
367136	2005-06-26 04:32:00	Here in the US, there's a definate maybe for a cutoff time to end analog tv broadcast, either the end of this or the next year . Yet the sales of analog tv's goes on at severly reduced prices . What cost over $500 (US) last month or so, has dropped to $129 . 95 (US) . The sets are being gobbled up by people who don't know that after such and such a date they will be recieving NOTHING! Here in Australia, they keep talking about the "death" of HDTV . I, and most people I know, didn't even know it was born . Now that you mention it, I do see those set-top boxes for sale around the place . The cutoff date seems to be pressured by the Chinese and the other electronics firms (Phillips is now a Chinese consortium) to be forced to a rapid forclosure and the necessary investments by citizens who have tv's from date 1946 to current who will need to replace them with the new digital systems . As far as I can see from the Royal Philips company (www . philips . com) site, it still is an independent Dutch company . It, like many globalist company - many of them American like Qualcomm - participate in consortiums that may or may not include chinese companies . Those that do partner up with chinese companies do so for the express purpose of getting a foot in the door of the chinese economy . They have the western markets all covered already . There is a mean spirited financially driven tiger here that is damning all the torpedoes and full steam ahead ala Halsey that puts the onus of the changeover back of those people who cannot ($$$) or will not switch for the sake of a 3rd world-cum-new-tech-leader, ie China . There is a lot of saber rattling going on, and the circles are lining up to meet this changeover with ferocity . Fear not the yellow peril - if you look at any such consortiums, they are almost always led by American companies . No one can influence politicians in the US (and internationally) like American companies can . As an aside, I refer you to John Perkins' excellent "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: How the U . S . Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions" . Made the NYTimes best-seller list for a few weeks, but no one likes to talk about it . A transcript of an interview with the Australian Broadcasting Corporation is here ( . abc . net . au/rn/talks/natint/stories/s1388750 . htm" target="_blank">www . abc . net . au) . Very interesting .	vinref (6194)
367137	2005-06-26 05:08:00	FYI: Phillips is (was) a Dutch Company . Another newsblurb is that the Chryslerl Consortees (Daimler Benz/Mopar/Whatever else) are going to start full-scale production of cars and trucks in China too . Goodie! Now Chrysler will get some real good quality control after years of building unadulterated crap . I prophesy that Lee Iacocca will become the latter day P . T . Barnham, (The Greatest Show On Earth! aka: the Ringling Brothers/ Barnham & Bailey Circus) with the quotable; "There's a sucker born every minute" to which I add: " . . . and they'll buy a Chrysler" . These decal-swapping companies are a sham and the American buyer is duped repeatedly, letting the camel into the tent and finding themselves sitting in the sun . We had a political aspirant (Ross Pirot) who called out that (I quote) "That giant sucking sound you hear come after the elections, is the sound of American jobs going south of the border (in ref to the free trade agreement with Mexico)" He is and was right . . . the US has been sold out and come to the level with mud hut technologies and offshore (read: outsourced) labor pools . I personally feel it was the unions that killed the golden bird with their forced pay standards and hard line political involvement with socialist dogmas and "global village" crap . The real influence is generated by a spectral trilateral commission that deigns a one-world order . Does it ever mystify one that all the US presidents and all of the existing EU leaders are all in the same commision? Those that stand alone are soon dissolved and brought down to nill as just iconoclasts and dictators and nutcases . Think Cuba, Serbia, Khazicstan, or Croat? When everyone is rendered down to just two distinct classes (the haves, and the have-nots) then you will see just where such retentive illusion let one astray . They don't make dictators any more like they usta . They all seem to die of lead poisoning, poison mushrooms or concussions from not eating the poison mushrooms . Right now, everyone is a puppet to the puppetmasters . OK, a little off the page, but be thee very aware of polorization (mass or otherwise) and find this answer for every problem: "What is the cause of this problem" . Follow the paper trail . NZ'ers aren't known to roll over . . and I personally look to you (plural, not singularly) for the last vestage of that pioneer spirit .	SurferJoe46 (51)
367138	2005-06-26 05:24:00	FYI: Phillips is (was) a Dutch Company. I had a quick look at the Philips site regarding their management structure (www.philips.com). You would expect a foreign (majority) owned company to be populated by managers from a parent company. The Philips board is mostly Dutch, with a sprinkling of Germans, French, Italians, Finns and a sole Englishman. There is one Singaporean, but no one else - no Americans especially. There is a link to their Alliances, but Philips is an independent Dutch company.	vinref (6194)
367139	2005-06-26 07:03:00	How is NZ set for the changeover to HDTV? Wait 10 years - maybe then, I reckon . (And maybe 20 years before 1 megabit per second is the norm! :lol:) It's funny though - quite a few of the new lcds are supposed to be "HDTV" ready, yet there isn't a wiff of a hope of ever receiving such a transmission . It'll be at least 5 years before digital TV is the norm . Which is why I'm putting of investing in decent widescreen tv, because, unless you fork out a fortune for sky, there aren't any widescreen transmissions . Only any point in going for widescreen for dvd watching really .	manicminer (4219)
367140	2005-06-26 07:14:00	remember that HDTV and Digital TV are NOT the same thing. HDTV is the content and Digital is the way to get content. you can get HDTV over analog. you can get standard TV over Digital. in 15-20 years it will be both HD and digital. AFAIK NZ has plans for Digital but not HD.	robsonde (120)
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