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658887	2008-04-15 08:39:00	Is there a sweet spot bang for your buck wise in processors, why E8400 instead of E8200?? I am looking at something similar and looking for the elusive balance between budget and performance is not easy. I would have thought that 2 gigs of RAM would be better.	macian999 (13528)
658888	2008-04-15 09:57:00	Is there a sweet spot bang for your buck wise in processors, why E8400 instead of E8200?? I am looking at something similar and looking for the elusive balance between budget and performance is not easy. I would have thought that 2 gigs of RAM would be better. Better multiplier!, which is more useful if overclocking, not too mention higher clock out of the box for little more $$ Didnt notice until now, he only had 1 GB, yes you are right, 2Gb sweet spot for 32bit O/S	SolMiester (139)
658889	2008-04-15 11:45:00	I forgot to say that was 1GB X 2. I basically want a CPU that I could OC further, but I wasn't sure what the best one to get was, so I thought I'd get an ok fsb one and work from there. But I'm a n00b so what do I know? The only reason I liked that mobo was that the heatsinks on the North and South bridges looked more capable than other similarly priced ones. And it had 2x 16X PCI-E's, so I could SLi if I wanted. Might go for the better RAM... except that I read this (www.tomshardware.com) recently, which seemed to say that actual performance gain from better RAM was minimal. Or at least that's what I read it to say. The budgets starting to matter less as I contemplate actually getting a quality product, and $100 all up to make a difference where it counts doesn't seem too bad. So from asking about a good case to this. Would the E8400 be best for OCing purposes at a budget? Also, would this (www.ascent.co.nz) be a better card? It's natively OC'd... or is it more worth OCing it yourself and saving the money, sans GPU behemoth heatsink? What is it that people have against WD and for Seagate? Are read/write times better? Or is it just more reliable?	Thebananamonkey (7741)
658890	2008-04-15 12:00:00	I forgot to say that was 1GB X 2. I basically want a CPU that I could OC further, but I wasn't sure what the best one to get was, so I thought I'd get an ok fsb one and work from there. But I'm a n00b so what do I know? The only reason I liked that mobo was that the heatsinks on the North and South bridges looked more capable than other similarly priced ones. And it had 2x 16X PCI-E's, so I could SLi if I wanted. Might go for the better RAM... except that I read this (www.tomshardware.com) recently, which seemed to say that actual performance gain from better RAM was minimal. Or at least that's what I read it to say. The budgets starting to matter less as I contemplate actually getting a quality product, and $100 all up to make a difference where it counts doesn't seem too bad. So from asking about a good case to this. Would the E8400 be best for OCing purposes at a budget? Also, would this (www.ascent.co.nz) be a better card? It's natively OC'd... or is it more worth OCing it yourself and saving the money, sans GPU behemoth heatsink? What is it that people have against WD and for Seagate? Are read/write times better? Or is it just more reliable? Well....to clock the 1333 FSb Wolfdale, you will need better RAM then DDR2 6400\800 or face a crippling divider strap on the north bridge. Get at least DDR1 8500\1066 which in actual fact is only factory clocked 800 with higher voltage. Remember higher voltage of RAM will effect North Bridge temps too. Toms hardware may state diminishing returns on faster RAM, but doesnt talk about requirements for clocking. That board is okay, if you are comfortable with the power connector position, personally i dont. Maybe the ASUS P5KC or the Gigabyte DS3L?. The Zalman is a better cooler for the GT which were originally hot with the standard cooler, however I personally would perfer a cooler the vents out of the case rather than blowing air all over the place inside the case disrupting any airflow you may have. Anyway, keep us informed of your progress......	SolMiester (139)
658891	2008-04-16 00:07:00	Got everything sorted now... almost. Getting some nice OTT RAM with cooling fins, and a fan to put on top, changed to a seagate, and debating whether to go with the XFX, or the Asus, or SLi of either of them... budgets becoming confuddled. But that's ok, just may need a little saving is all... And contemplating dual screens is making things further complicated. Also, decided on the ASUS P5KC... as I just can't resist the heatsinks everywhere. I see what you mean about power becoming a hassle too. Hadn't thought about that before. Thanks heaps. I love this forum.	Thebananamonkey (7741)
658892	2008-04-16 22:01:00	Got everything sorted now... almost. Getting some nice OTT RAM with cooling fins, and a fan to put on top, changed to a seagate, and debating whether to go with the XFX, or the Asus, or SLi of either of them... budgets becoming confuddled. But that's ok, just may need a little saving is all... And contemplating dual screens is making things further complicated. Also, decided on the ASUS P5KC... as I just can't resist the heatsinks everywhere. I see what you mean about power becoming a hassle too. Hadn't thought about that before. Thanks heaps. I love this forum. Umm, I'm thinking of ditching the P5KC idea......DDR3 option is okay, however, cant see myself swapping 4GB DDR2 for 4GB DDR3 really....I do like the heatsinks, maybe I'll go for the P5K-E, it has 8 SATA headers!, though no heat pipes! No change that, I'll go Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P, they have been good to me so far, has the heatpipes and 8 SATA. Guess I'll have to get the matching 9600GT now instead of the ASUS !	SolMiester (139)
658893	2008-04-16 23:58:00	Umm, I'm thinking of ditching the P5KC idea......DDR3 option is okay, however, cant see myself swapping 4GB DDR2 for 4GB DDR3 really....I do like the heatsinks, maybe I'll go for the P5K-E, it has 8 SATA headers!, though no heat pipes! No change that, I'll go Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P, they have been good to me so far, has the heatpipes and 8 SATA. Guess I'll have to get the matching 9600GT now instead of the ASUS ! OMG... how many HDD's do you need? Or you could have some crazy redundancy 1TB RAID array going on. I like the DDR3 Option myself. Gives me options if I want to keep the board for long. Wondering if I want a quad core though. I know multiple threads don't really utilise the cores atm... but wondering if I'm going for a futureproof system whether having 2 redundant cores for now is a sacrifice worth making. Or maybe when I need them I can just buy a better CPU, for a better price. Not sure. All I can see is that age old mantra that it's never a good time to buy tech, $$$ wise.	Thebananamonkey (7741)
658894	2008-04-17 01:31:00	I only have 2 x 80Gb SATA & a 160Gb IDE. With only 1 IDE header, I'll lose either an optical or the storage........I need to get a nice big SATA drive for storage so I can strip the to 80's. As for the Q9450, having a wife means you dont get to upgrade very often, and lets face it, parallel computing so only going to get better. There are games that can use or are supposed to use 4 cores, if not now, then soon. And also, to be fair, a quad may not clock as high as a dual core, but there is only about 200mhz max in it, I'd rather have the extra cores.	SolMiester (139)
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