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Thread ID: 59122	2005-06-22 04:12:00	And now, for something completely stupid...	vinref (6194)	PC World Chat

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366074	2005-06-22 06:47:00	A few years back I was planning to take the Diploma in Aviation course down at the SIT. You get a diploma and the aim is to get a commercial pilots licence by the end of it. I got invited to an interview and they said well lets find someone to take you up in the sky for a trial, see how you like it. So I went for a ride in a small cessna for 1/2hr. Anyway I was asking the guy what happens if we stall, what do you do etc. He goes, that's no worries. You can still land with no engines. I asked him to show me. So he proceeded to cut the engines and we glided down and landed on the Teretonga raceway then took off again. :D Was pretty cool. I actually got accepted into the course but decided not to do it that year. I'll make some money in IT then go for it. So definitely possible to land with no engines. Might be a little different with a big commercial jet though?	E|im (87)
366075	2005-06-22 06:59:00	So definitely possible to land with no engines. All of us glider pilots reckon that this is the only way ....	TonyF (246)
366076	2005-06-22 07:46:00	All of us glider pilots reckon that this is the only way .... Yes, but you still have to borrow an engine to get you up there don't you. :p Cheers Billy 8-{) ;)	Billy T (70)
366077	2005-06-22 07:52:00	Sadly yes - but only for a few minutes. We also had to drive to the airfield .. But it was good fun ! Cheers T	TonyF (246)
366078	2005-06-22 12:23:00	Being intrigued, I found out some more on an aviation site. They did recover from the stall, and attempted to make it to an airfiled by gliding. However they seem to have done pretty much everything wrong (which isn't surprising considering the situation they got themselves in). They attempted to glide to an airfield that was too far away, despite there seemingly being closer alternatives, realised they weren't going to make it too late, attempted to go for a road, messed that up and crashed in a residential area, luckily not killing anyone but themselves. On their way up at 41,000, the onboard systems detected the approaching stall and attempted to lower the nose to regain speed. The pilots chose to override this automated safety system, presumably because they thought they knew what they were doing. The engine cut-off didn't happen until after this. If they hadn't overriden the auto systems response, they might have been around now to learn from their mistakes.	Biggles (121)
366079	2005-06-22 12:29:00	That proves it - these guys were either drunk, or stoned.	vinref (6194)
366080	2005-06-22 12:58:00	Well, the cockpit voice recorder has one of them saying "dude" a lot. Personally I'd never trust a pilot who called his fellow pilots "dude". Sounds a bit too much like the un-made, third "Bill and Ted" movie ... ... yes I know this image is in poor taste: sal.neoburn.net	Biggles (121)
366081	2005-06-22 13:05:00	Oooh...that's real cool, dude.	vinref (6194)
366082	2005-06-23 02:02:00	Have you got a simulation for the F/A-22 Raptor, Bruce. See if you can copy the short flight of one lucky pilot. 11 seconds after takeoff, he ejected with the plane "nearly inverted". The plane hit the end of the runway going backwards. This is an "air supremacy" fighter. It would scare me, too. Enemies might just laugh. This trick was perfomed with the help of an automatic Flight Control System and some bad hardware and software design. The comp.risks (catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/23.90.html) newsgroup has the details.	Graham L (2)
366083	2005-06-23 06:14:00	But what was the type of plane? I want to try this in Flight Sim. Try flying a heavy from a start altitude of 100,000ft. Quite fun rearly. If you go for the outside views you can see the glide path (if you can call it that) in the exhaust vapour trails. Have had some fun trying to land a lear jet with thrust reverses spoilers and flaps deployed. Have managed to do it once after many failed attempts. The trick is to be at the right altitude and distance from the runway when you make the aproach.	craigb (4884)
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