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| Thread ID: 142486 | 2016-07-11 01:58:00 | John Deere Wet Brake Experienced? | SurferJoe46 (51) | PC World Chat |
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| 1422916 | 2016-07-11 01:58:00 | I've got a JD 830-a utility tractor apart for a busted LO/HI shift gate and there was a lot of metal in the transmission and oil filter, so that got me wondering if the wet brakes had gone metal-to-metal . I have some pixs HERE ( . dropbox . com/sc/ccq8ntrzuv74mb6/AAAfUv0bmX8_B_IeURRxkQwJa" target="_blank">www . dropbox . com) . As you can see, there is one side of the sun disc that has some friction material on it whilst the other side is buck-nekked . Unfortunately, I cannot tell if there is only supposed to be friction material on one side and the other is neatly a smooth machined surface . I sincerely doubt that though . That the sun disc rotates with the rear wheel to which it is attached, makes no sense to me that there'd only be friction material on one side and not the other where it gouges out the metal from the apply-piston . The same happenstance is on the other side wheel/drive/brake assembly too . . . . . brake material on only one side of the friction/sun disk and what I believe is also ruined circumferential application pistons on both sides too . Hopefully someone in Upsidedown Land has worked on one of these expensive monsters and can tell me whazzup here . This simple $3000 transmission repair just jumped up another $2000 . 00 USDs now . How much ya wanna bet that I get to own a JD830-a tractor now? :eek: |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1422917 | 2016-07-11 03:51:00 | I thought a wet brake was when you stopped by driving into a lake? | dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1422918 | 2016-07-11 04:41:00 | It could be worse than that too. When you're a guy ---- well - the whole outdoors is your personal privy. That's a sarcastic/farcical quote - not something I would ever dream up! | SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1422919 | 2016-07-11 07:56:00 | I would say both sides. Did a quick Google image search | plod (107) | ||
| 1422920 | 2016-07-11 08:40:00 | I tried that - even watched YouTube vids too - but they all only showed one side of the friction material and even the OFFICIAL John Deere shop manual didn't have decent pixs either. Do you have a link with both sides shown? I'm in agreement that there HAS to be two sides of friction material - but I cannot prove it and the local JD dealer (now RDO (Ltd/LLC) and NOT a nice group with which to deal and keeps secrets from customers and even ME!) isn't talking. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1422921 | 2016-07-11 09:23:00 | www.youtube.com Don't want to teach you anything but I found this link. PJ |
Poppa John (284) | ||
| 1422922 | 2016-07-11 09:46:00 | I tried that - even watched YouTube vids too - but they all only showed one side of the friction material and even the OFFICIAL John Deere shop manual didn't have decent pixs either. Do you have a link with both sides shown? I'm in agreement that there HAS to be two sides of friction material - but I cannot prove it and the local JD dealer (now RDO (Ltd/LLC) and NOT a nice group with which to deal and keeps secrets from customers and even ME!) isn't talking.Nope. Sorry. | plod (107) | ||
| 1422923 | 2016-07-11 10:48:00 | I have good success buying/viewing auto parts from USA by cross referencing like this...What you need are the part No.'s and any related Stock No.'s/Codes for those same parts... 1. Pull the part Numbers from a online catalog - often PDF - and if scanned Google rarely finds/indexes them (unless if well SEO''d). John Deere 830 catalog here (jdpc.deere.com geServlet_Alt). PDF is 238 pages (seems scanned) 2. Search Google Images with those numbers. You might come across Borg Warner and WAIGlobal and Chinese/Taiwanese suppliers (e,g, Alibaba site)(I had heaps of WAIGlobal catalogs - but I think they pulled them - unless if distributor). Also search Amazon (Not only images - but they have a massive index of top branded Auto USA/Jap manufactures and also search eBay Motors 3. Sometimes helps to use internet Archives (archive.org) (Wayback Machine) by pasting in the URL's of catalog pages. results show expired/removed web pages/images - but may still have relevant doc's. eBay has auto stock surplus stores and related web sites; BWD/Standard Motor Parts/Wix brands I got from long Island and Wisconsin which I found from above process... |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1422924 | 2016-07-11 16:46:00 | . youtube . com/watch?v=15aDyF0Jg-U" target="_blank">www . youtube . com Don't want to teach you anything but I found this link . PJ The thin line that divides a smart man from a stupid one is drawn in a question mark . IOW . . . . I never look down on people with something to offer - least of all any of my friends precariously hanging by their tails to a hook whilst they live upside-down . Sidebar: it must be hellish to have to swallow UP for every mouthful . I digress . Sorry . I was at that very same post just yesterday night with this guy joy riding his JD and speaking Martian . For the first few minutes, I couldn't make any sense of whatever language he was using . . . . but after three minutes of squinting my ears to hear if there was anything I could use in my quest to actually get to see if there is friction material on both sides of the sun disc inside a 1974 JD-830a, I kinda had the idea that he was not going to be the light at the end of my Quixotic meanders . . . . . . but by then, it didn't really matter . Ya see . . . after those cursory first minutes of immersion into a strange Babylonian Dialect, I was entranced with the ambiance of the moment . I had no thought whatsoever of what he was trying to propagate but I felt warm and squishy all over and it was kinda good . . . . . even with no possibility for any revelation into whether there was anything I could use in this video, in a non-conversational/non-communicative way at least . The end of the video came all too soon and although I went on from there in ever looser yet growing circles, radiating - I hoped - to find out about the bilateral application of friction material - unanswered as yet, a search so hearty in concept laced with my now renewed desire for some sort of divine enlightenment ala the John Deere design obfuscation engineering experts . Alas, poor Yoric - in want for an epiphany and as I remainith requieted not, I yet seek, nay, hope to see Faire Julliete's silouette in some other yon YouTube window . Good try though, gov! Luv ya dearly for the help . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1422925 | 2016-07-11 17:16:00 | I have good success buying/viewing auto parts from USA by cross referencing like this . . . What you need are the part No . 's and any related Stock No . 's/Codes for those same parts . . . 1 . Pull the part Numbers from a online catalog - often PDF - and if scanned Google rarely finds/indexes them (unless if well SEO''d) . John Deere 830 catalog here ( . deere . com/jdpc/servlet/com . deere . u90490 . partscatalog . view . servlets . HomePa" target="_blank">jdpc . deere . com geServlet_Alt) . PDF is 238 pages (seems scanned) 2 . Search Google Images with those numbers . You might come across Borg Warner and WAIGlobal and Chinese/Taiwanese suppliers (e,g, Alibaba site)(I had heaps of WAIGlobal catalogs - but I think they pulled them - unless if distributor) . Also search Amazon (Not only images - but they have a massive index of top branded Auto USA/Jap manufactures and also search eBay Motors 3 . Sometimes helps to use internet Archives ( . org/web/" target="_blank">archive . org) (Wayback Machine) by pasting in the URL's of catalog pages . results show expired/removed web pages/images - but may still have relevant doc's . eBay has auto stock surplus stores and related web sites; BWD/Standard Motor Parts/Wix brands I got from long Island and Wisconsin which I found from above process . . . I have actually seen the exact same part numerous times in parts catalogs - albeit, online catalogs . But help me here a little bit more if you will by understanding my plight . The rule o' thumb if you want to sell something - stay with me here 'cause I'll bring this back to your helpful post, I promise - is to only show the good side of whatever it is you have to sell . "Putting forth the best face" if you'll allow . Knowing that, and my being suspect of marketing and marketing schemes, I still am not convinced that there is any friction material on the obtuse side of the sun disc I seek . Even in the sundry videos available, alas none of them model-specific - I never get to see the disc being handled; it's already installed . That's the punishing part: they are installed, not to ever see the installation and the prescribed flipping over of the disc during oratorical elucidation by the mechanic-slash-owner as he/she, (to be PC here), agonizes over which way to install it ------ whilst on camera . I appreciate your post imensely and it offered some new venues for what I need . Thanks a whole lot . (I hope that isn't sarcasm in NZ-speak, since I mean it in all sincerity . ) |
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