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Thread ID: 142483	2016-07-10 00:06:00	De-Clutter The Clutter....The "Joy" Approach	kahawai chaser (3545)	PC World Chat

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1422897	2016-07-10 00:06:00	The Marie Kondo Joy approach...Her website (tidyingup.com/) (neat vid on folding clothes - now I have 2 empty draws) and 8 clutter free lessons (https:) and a lengthy NY Times article of the war on stuff in USA Homes (www.nytimes.com) Interesting how a young Japanese girl has become popular as a de-cluttering/tidying guru, by being joyful to things you like/love, and to pray for the items you should let go. Apparently has upset/annoyed a USA women's clutter free experts. Though they appreciate her books have helped them being recognized...but has not really added any significant methods. But her books ended ended up on NY Times for months and high sales within USA...	kahawai chaser (3545)
1422898	2016-07-10 03:53:00	SWMBO's been folding our clothes like that for several years, certainly makes it easier to find the piece you want.	gary67 (56)
1422899	2016-07-10 06:01:00	"Do you have dozens of notebooks that are still half blank? " "You are bound to come across things like postcards bought on the spur of the moment " "Many people tend to hoard old cell phones." "Do you have any surplus chargers lying around? And how about those earphones that came with something you no longer remember?" "Keep the desk area relatively clear. Consider adding a small ornamental plant." "Make your bedroom a space to recharge your batteries and refresh yourself for another day. .... play relaxing music, and feature items ... that spark joy." "Bathe by candle-light and add bath salts, flowers, whatever you feel like." Seriously?? I could give this girl lessons then. Having moved from a lovely roomy old house to a tiny particle box - and then had family move in too, I know all about decluttering and storage. Pretty much do NOT have an ornamental plant. Do not clutter the bathroom with flowers and other unnecessary rubbish which will make more of a mess and cause more work once the petals drop all over etc. Music in the bedroom? Hell no, it would keep the others awake for one thing. I do not have cellphones, chargers, cords, notebooks (really??!) or whatever. We now have minimal furniture. We have small furniture. I ditched all the odd buts and pieces of computer stuff I might want (and yes I have wanted it, bugger) and all kitchen items that got used only once or twice a year. I even emptied out the oddments in the garage. If it couldn't be identified or had started to rust, it wasn't needed. There is no longer a junk drawer either. When you don't have space, you either live like a hoarder or you learn how to organise and be ruthless in what is kept. Cushions? Hah. Funny little kitchen utensils? Bah. Even the clothes got a going through..... We have enough bedding needed and no more. I only have half a linen cupboard so....	pctek (84)
1422900	2016-07-10 06:13:00	I no longer have things in cupboards. I have containers in cupboards. I went down the op shop and bought jars, tins, containers. Things are in them now. Screws, pins, hooks in jars. Husbands insulin and other bits in a compartmentalised hinged box - annoyingly he gets pills in those nasty tinfoil packets.I take them out and put them in a marked bottle. In the box. I learnt the smallest way possible to fold sheets and towels etc. Everything is in a container, even granddaughters stuff for when she is here. She's learnt to put things away in them too, she's pretty tidy actually. The kitchen is my most hated room, because there are still 3 appliances on the bench all the time, the bloody medicine box and two shelf thingies with containers in them. But there is nowhere else....the pantry is full of containers too and for those annoying small things like spice containers and such, I bought a lazy susan, they sit on that so you can get at stuff without knocking things over or rummaging. I also bought a label machine. Helped with the switches etc for things like security lights and double switches and such - as well as the containers. It is actually fairly impossible to lose things now....everything has a container and a label. I changed heaps of the furniture too, small couches instead of lounge suite, smaller coffee table, dumped the outdoor furniture and just have a couple of skinny bench seats. The only thing I couldn't bring myself to do was change the dining suite, it remains really too big for the place. Even got ruthless with my books, went through and got it down to 2 1/2 bookshelves now. My son arrived with things stuffed into random bags. He now has a desk with drawers, a bigger set of clothes drawers and a **** load of containers in the drawers.....LOL.	pctek (84)
1422901	2016-07-10 08:54:00	I no longer have things in cupboards. I have containers in cupboards. I went down the op shop and bought jars, tins, containers. Things are in them now. Screws, pins, hooks in jars. Husbands insulin and other bits in a compartmentalised hinged box - annoyingly he gets pills in those nasty tinfoil packets.I take them out and put them in a marked bottle. In the box. I learnt the smallest way possible to fold sheets and towels etc. Everything is in a container, even granddaughters stuff for when she is here. She's learnt to put things away in them too, she's pretty tidy actually. The kitchen is my most hated room, because there are still 3 appliances on the bench all the time, the bloody medicine box and two shelf thingies with containers in them. But there is nowhere else....the pantry is full of containers too and for those annoying small things like spice containers and such, I bought a lazy susan, they sit on that so you can get at stuff without knocking things over or rummaging. I also bought a label machine. Helped with the switches etc for things like security lights and double switches and such - as well as the containers. It is actually fairly impossible to lose things now....everything has a container and a label. I changed heaps of the furniture too, small couches instead of lounge suite, smaller coffee table, dumped the outdoor furniture and just have a couple of skinny bench seats. The only thing I couldn't bring myself to do was change the dining suite, it remains really too big for the place. Even got ruthless with my books, went through and got it down to 2 1/2 bookshelves now. My son arrived with things stuffed into random bags. He now has a desk with drawers, a bigger set of clothes drawers and a **** load of containers in the drawers.....LOL. I have loads of containers, from large 60 L to plenty of small 200 ml; i have about 8 full size drawers of small cheaply bought PC and Auto tech accessories all in disarray. Slowly compartmentalizing them. Though they not really for me. But to save to give them away to family/friends when needed. For your kitchen have you thought of 3 - 4 tier vertical s/steel trolleys? I bought a small one Kmart cheap one. But really want the larger sturdy (catering) ones (but > $ 300 new on TM) to house Kitchen bench appliances. Also those Chinese vertical plastic door cube organizers?	kahawai chaser (3545)
1422902	2016-07-10 21:18:00	For your kitchen have you thought of 3 - 4 tier vertical s/steel trolleys? And where would it sit? It's small, bad enough trying to fit 2 people in at the same time. I put the containers in cupboards etc to have a minimum of stuff sitting about in the open.	pctek (84)
1422903	2016-07-13 00:37:00	I tried her way of decluttering by category rather than room by room. One thing I religiously do now is empty the contents of my handbag or little backpack into a basket thing on a dresser as soon as I get back home and discard anything no longer needed. It only takes a few secs to put anything I need into a bag for the next trip out. I used to leave my mobile in whatever bag I'd used and forget it for a day sometimes.	bellbird (6169)
1422904	2016-07-13 01:06:00	I have made several of these 'wardrobes'. They triple the storage of the built-in wardrobe they replace	BBCmicro (15761)
1422905	2016-07-13 20:35:00	Love it!	pctek (84)
1422906	2016-07-16 08:44:00	well i've been trying out the "joy" idea. had a big pile of computer and personal gear all stacked in the office from when i shifted in. so today i pulled out each box, picked up an item, does it give me joy........it once did but no, so in the bin it goes. however there is a glaring downside to this method.......what on earth do i do with all the space i've now got ? :wub :clap in all serious i'm scratching my head. do i fit a work bench, put shelves in, put a couch/bed in ????	tweak'e (69)
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