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| 1422808 | 2016-07-10 00:25:00 | @ BM -- Don't worry mate, I'm not fussed by Nicks one sided attack on everyone who doesn't agree with him. I deal with people like him all the time. There's one thing - there's no actual links to any statics from any source, just useless links to what Trump said. Trumps a Politician, and we all know they do things to get attention and cause debate - I've read BM's posts, cant see anywhere where its stated as fact.So nick ol son how's about posting some FACTS - along with Links from creditable sources instead of spouting off and running down everyone else's posts. Put up !! Righto mate, you asked for it.I'm not attacking people, I'm attacking clear, provable lies that claim to be statistics.If you actually opened the links I posted in posts 15 and 23, you'd see the correct statistics, along with links to source information (FBI and the Justice Department). I've posted credible facts from the start mate. If you're too stupid to read, or too lazy to read them, thats not my problem. Slightly ironic you'd accuse me of not opening your links when you've clearly not read mine. Put up yourself, or do us all a favour and shut up! Lastly, something that I hope you'll understand - though I doubt it. I don't need to list my own stats to to run down others. All I need to do is disprove the other stats. The source Trump claims his stats are from went on record saying they don't know where he got his stats from. His so called stats are lies, and that's a provable fact. Get a grip! |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1422809 | 2016-07-10 00:41:00 | Not too surprised with the call out on "facts" provable or not, but the interest in NZ concerning US politics even exceeds most US citizens' zeal for this election . Heard on Public Broadcast System (PBS) this AM is that Hillary, if she wasn't running against a Trump would be the single-most-hated candidate to date in US elections on any level including New York's infamous Boss Tweed . Since Trump is in the opposition, they both then share that same distinction: one that lies and cannot be trusted and the other that shoots from the hip and has no political background . I remain neutral on politics as pertains to elections, the elected and the otherwise 'associates' of any of the aforementioned . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1422810 | 2016-07-10 00:55:00 | Well here are some statistics that our Bleeding Heart, Left Wing Loonies, might like to explain? :) The American Statistics Department claim that as of July 1st 2015 the Black or African American population of America was 13.3%. 7300 OK, and the FBI claim that in 2014 the Black or African Americans committed 52.2% of Murders and Non-negligent manslaughters. 7301 Great, so 52.2% of their murders are committed by the 13.3% of the population that expect sympathy when they’re on the losing end. To make matters worse they have sympathisers in this country and on this forum. :rolleyes: I’m starting to think Mr. Trump may not have been far off the mark at all. |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1422811 | 2016-07-10 01:01:00 | When using a % there's Always a large margin for error. LMAO - do you and your good mate B.M.B.M even read what you write? |
bevy121 (117) | ||
| 1422812 | 2016-07-10 01:51:00 | LMAO - do you and your good mate B.M.B.M even read what you write? Of course. Just some people like to pull everyone else's post apart and then cant actually back up what they say if they have to. ( meaning just about any post- they come to make trouble) Its well known, that percentages are not the full story, If your population consists of just a few hundred people, you might find that you need to survey almost all of them in order to achieve the level of accuracy that you desire. As the population size increases, the percentage of people needed to achieve a high level of accuracy decreases rapidly. Even in the first page linked in post #15 - it states Killings by police We also looked at what percentage of each race the police have killed. The official tally of deaths at the hands of law enforcement officers is well known to be incomplete. One of the official, and incomplete, sources for people killed at the hands of police is the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention violent death database. It shows a ratio of about 1.5 white deaths for each black death, in the period 2009 to 2013. As its been written in several articles, not all the crimes are listed. So how can any percentage be accurate. Bit like an electron - ( just so a certain someone cant go jumping up and blowing again by saying incorrect figures, THE FOLLOWING FIGURES ARE MADE UP) Lets say a political party won by 30% that's only of the people that voted. So they cant say they won by 30% of the total eligible people who can vote, they only won by the number of people who did vote. OH wait -- Nick mentioned post #15 & 23- 15, Been mentioned, and yet post 23 says Trumps Pic with figures agrees its wrong, don't think there's any one saying it was facts, BM certainly didn't and neither did anyone else. Hmm guess that makes the comment All I need to do is disprove the other stats a bit of a joke really, just agreeing with what's written as false. As for Nicks comment -- I DID read them all, and from what I can see only posted one post #15 that had a link in that has some statics, post 23 only has a link to a report that doesn't list race ( even says so) and the other link goes to the same as post #15, linking twice to the same page is not twice a accurate. All the other posts are linked to trumps false claims. Americas in a hell of a mess - could very well get even worse.new_civil_war_over_the_nature_of_reality/ (www.salon.com r_new_civil_war_over_the_nature_of_reality/) |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1422813 | 2016-07-10 05:53:00 | LMAO - do you and your good mate B . M . B . M even read what you write? Oh you’re back Bevy dear . I note your own post is rather dishevelled . Is this the after effects of your recent bovine spongiform encephalopathy? |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1422814 | 2016-07-10 06:16:00 | As for Nicks comment -- I DID read them all, and from what I can see only posted one post #15 that had a link in that has some statics, post 23 only has a link to a report that doesn't list race ( even says so) and the other link goes to the same as post #15, linking twice to the same page is not twice a accurate. All the other posts are linked to trumps false claims.I'd read the link in post 23 again then. | Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1422815 | 2016-07-10 07:00:00 | If you even bothered to look at the links I posted there's several there within the article going to various places along with a spreadsheet that reported events and where the data came from. There is also a graph that can be altered to look at what you wanted in particular. Bet it was never looked at. So to post a screen shot of the options, please note that according to the statics more whites have been shot by cops than blacks or any other race. 7299 I thought I'd respond directly to this one, as you still seem to be under the impression I haven't opened it. The thing is, this is looking at a something different to the 'statistic' originally posted by B.M. The statistic didn't look at absolute numbers - it looked at relative percentages. I'll try to outline the differences below. B.M.'s image: Blacks killed = 100%. What proportion of those were killed by other blacks, what proportion were killed by whites, and what proportion were killed by police officers. Whites killed = 100%. What proportion of those were killed by other blacks, what proportion were killed by whites, and what proportion were killed by police officers. Your stats: People shot by police = 100%. What proportion of those shot were blacks, and what proportion were whites. I'm genuinely a bit confused as to what you want me to do with your stats - they aren't wrong or in any way misleading, but they're different. They don't actually support, or rebut, any of the other statistics or 'statistics' posted here, because they're looking at something different. |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1422816 | 2016-07-10 07:32:00 | @ Nick Yes theres two different sets of results. If a chart reads as X number of Incidents (Easy way to call it, as there's several sorts of crimes relating to death) Then that's a exact figure. But when there is only a percentage figure, its a percentage of what/how many ? Example: if they said there were 100 incidents and 25 were white killed then that's exact & could said 25%, but when saying there's 25% (no other figures) the question is 25% or WHAT?? - 25% of 100, 200, 300 etc which of course would give a different end figure. As its been published serval times the figures are incomplete, so saying a percentage is a open to questioning and inaccurate. One closer to home made me smile, look at your own signature - shows how easy it would be to be fiddled to get a result required. ;) Own personal opinion -- Trumps just blowing hot air to make himself stand out at others bad fortune and he'll do it any way he can. Either way its a sad state of affairs in the USA. :( |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1422817 | 2016-07-10 08:37:00 | You seem a bit more reasonable this time, what's up? Did you find my link did contain the information after all :lol::lol: The main point in all of this is: The 'stats' posted by B.M. are complete rubbish, and made up to make blacks look bad. I fully agree with you about Trump, and the overall state of affairs in the USA! |
Nick G (16709) | ||
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