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| Thread ID: 142536 | 2016-07-19 07:43:00 | Ryobi or Black & Decker? | bk T (215) | PC World Chat |
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| 1423353 | 2016-07-20 02:26:00 | I bought one of these they had them on offer $200 brilliant ideal for drilling and powerful for 10.8 you can't hold the chuck and stop it www.thetoolshed.co.nz used similar (possibly even that one). its not overly grunty and a bit pricey when you can get 18v ones for the same price or less (with similar quality). |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 1423354 | 2016-07-20 02:31:00 | I hesitate to offer because it seems a bit opportunistic but... If you're likely to be in Hamilton and want a 2nd Hand Makita 14.4V for $100 we could do a deal... Has a case, charger, and 2 NiCad batteries. Looks like this www.makitapowertoolsonline.com It's a few years old but in good condition, however it uses NiCads and I don't use it often enough so it's always flat when I want it plus I have an 18V Ryobi with Lithium Ion batteries that's much gruntier. What I can't tell you is what sort of condition the batteries are in, they worked just fine the last couple of times I used it. batteries are the issue. i threw out my good 12v commercial grade bosh $$$$ one due to batteries failing and the lack of use (as no longer do that work) is what kills the batteries. you can get some battery pack reco'd, but by the time you buy a 2nd hand drill and repack the battery, you can buy almost buy a new lithium one. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 1423355 | 2016-07-20 06:01:00 | Of course batteries are important and I recommend one with LIs . I don't know what's available in Upsidedown Land, but you seem to have lots of choices, although the prices make me wince with pain . Youse guys get owned down there! Also get a spare pack for those times you use the first battery pack up and are out in the south forty and can't/won't wait to charge the pack for 20 minutes or so . I personally don't buy screw guns that double as drills any more . I only buy small impact guns with the 1/4" hex drive and just put the drills in it with the hex shanks . It also drives screws really well and I can use it for smaller bolts, more than 10mm (yes - SurferJoe is speaking sillimeters here) anyway - in sizes over 10mm or 3 . 8" or so, I just grab my 1/2" air impact gun which I've had since 1986 by the date I inscribed on the handle . Sometimes it doesn't pay to buy a big name gun though - money aside - as they are usually just the image and not really the quality you want . I've found that the cheaper guns are passable if not really good, considering the price - and yet when you kill one of them if it's off warranty - I just buy another one for a small outlay . Makita seems to hold a lot of the market here for those up-to-moderate uses . Certainly one could use it in a contractor's tool kit, but it'll fail when you need it . Here's a super piece of information: Do NOT buy a 'clamshell' gun of any brand, price or battery prowess . These are the drills or drill motors that have the case screws that hold two halves of the gun together . A good quality gun will have a separable metal case transmission (reduction gears, really) at the front of the unit and the armature loads out through the same hole that the reduction gears cover . This Dewalt is a clamshell gun ( . thetoolshed . co . nz/Products/Cordless-Power-Tools/DeWalt-10-8v-Kits/DeWalt-Cordless-Drill-10-8v-1-3Ah" target="_blank">www . thetoolshed . co . nz) . I would not buy it . This Skill is kinda a mystery to me . ( . skiltools . com/Tools/Pages/ProductDetail . aspx?model=2860-03" target="_blank">www . skiltools . com) It works very well, although it isn't the design I admire - I've used one under a house in snow melt running through it and having dropped it numerous times onto hard surfaces, and generally treated it very badly, it performed very well . Battery life was huge - it was powerful enough to run box after box of 6 inch long ST screws ( . strongtie . com/strongdrive_interiorwoodscrews/sdwc_screw/p/strong-drive-sdwc-truss-screw" target="_blank">www . strongtie . com) and still have a lot more left in it work-wise ------ until it fell into a concrete pour and was lost forever . I have three of these ( . quality-handtool-review . com/makita-tools . html#" target="_blank">www . quality-handtool-review . com) and although they were quite the good deal in their day, battery design has left them behind . I converted one to LIon and had a new charger for it that I bought at Batteries+ here in the US and it is a very powerful unit, and although it's a dinosaur by modern standards, they are very decent if you convert them to LIon . The FORWARD/REVERSE switch is fragile - be warned about that . I have a lot of Milwaukee drills from Hole Hawgs to 1/2" angle heads to --- well, here's some pixs of them: . milwaukeetool . com/~/media/Images/Power%20Tools/Corded/1675-6/17292_1675-6 . jpg" target="_blank">cdn . milwaukeetool . com I also have a 'Frame Drill" with a magnetic footplate that I defy anyone to remove it when it's engaged . I have a much older version of it than this, but you'll get the idea: . milwaukeetool . com/~/media/Images/Power%20Tools/Corded/1675-6/17292_1675-6 . jpg" target="_blank">cdn . milwaukeetool . com . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1423356 | 2016-07-20 06:10:00 | No good talking ot Milwaukee down here, a bank robbery is the 1st stage. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 1423357 | 2016-07-20 06:16:00 | No good talking ot Milwaukee down here, a bank robbery is the 1st stage. A couple of my Milwaukee's are over 50 years old and running just as strong as new. My newest Milwaukee is about 15 years old and although I have great disdain for the trigger that occupies almost all of the front of the handle (very dangerous to handle) and it has tossed me off not a few ladders onto my head and shoulders a few times - I love them as they seem to be indestructible. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1423358 | 2016-07-20 06:23:00 | BTW: This is one that I buy and have about four right now. (www.harborfreight.com) They are powerful, drive screws and drill bits and run screws and all sorts of fasteners. They are light weight and you can purchase a couple of extra battery packs for extra run time. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1423359 | 2016-07-20 06:25:00 | Yes but not for the home handy man. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 1423360 | 2016-07-20 06:42:00 | I was going to repack battery pack with type "C" batteries, but seem a little involved cause need to solder tags. Then their are standards and high capacity. Costing was approaching off the shelf after market packs. So abandoned that approach. i resurrected some 12V drills, without their packs, with simple alligator clips and leads to run off 12V battery/jump starter. Backup drills really to my other cordless/corded drills. Drills are basic really - what governs it is just a old school armature/commutator setup. Surely simple enough for any manufacture to build a durable combo. Also don't know why 18 V drills have become in DIY vogue last few years - man has utilized 12V (or 7.2/9.6V torque drills for decades... |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1423361 | 2016-07-20 07:23:00 | Also don't know why 18 V drills have become in DIY vogue last few years - man has utilized 12V (or 7.2/9.6V torque drills for decades... its down to the individual cell voltage but also current draw. 18v has less current for the same wattage. high current requires thicker wires and circuit board tracks. most drills didn't have much grunt until the high current 12v ones came out. trouble is reliability of the high current batteries was a bit off an issue. but customers don't want to go back a step. so lower current 14v and 18v came out. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 1423362 | 2016-07-20 20:35:00 | Use a good 12V drill, then use a good 18V drill, then you'll know why. | dugimodo (138) | ||
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