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Thread ID: 142474 2016-07-08 05:37:00 11 Dallas Texas Officers Shot SurferJoe46 (51) PC World Chat
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1422798 2016-07-09 08:59:00 www.dailywire.com

So is that completely OK with you to shoot a police Officer in that manner ?

Of course it isn't! It's premeditated, cold blooded murder, aimed at those of a certain race and profession. It's repulsive, abhorrent, and the killer should be punished with the full weight of the law. Also, condolences to the families of the dead. What a horrible thing to have to deal with, and something that no family should ever experience. :(

However, I never said, or implied, anything to the contrary. You're implying I did (see the text in bold). What a load of sh*t from you :annoyed:

Now, let's get onto your other statement.


That is completely true, but on the other side of the coin police have the right not to be shot in the same manner. NOW before you go reporting more so called false statements, have a look at the following video footage of a cop being killed point blank-Now call it false.!!

www.dailywire.com

'So called false statements': there is nothing 'so called' about them. They're false. They're not actually taken from the source they said they were, and they're downright wrong. It is also clear that they are falsified with the intention of stirring up anti black sentiment, as well as apathy towards police treatment of blacks.

I called it false because that's what is it. If you've got a problem with that, take a good, hard look in the mirror.
Nick G (16709)
1422799 2016-07-09 09:55:00 Of course it isn't! It's premeditated, cold blooded murder, aimed at those of a certain race and profession. It's repulsive, abhorrent, and the killer should be punished with the full weight of the law. Also, condolences to the families of the dead. What a horrible thing to have to deal with, and something that no family should ever experience. :(

However, I never said, or implied, anything to the contrary. You're implying I did (see the text in bold). What a load of sh*t from you :annoyed:

Now, let's get onto your other statement.



'So called false statements': there is nothing 'so called' about them. They're false. They're not actually taken from the source they said they were, and they're downright wrong. It is also clear that they are falsified with the intention of stirring up anti black sentiment, as well as apathy towards police treatment of blacks.

I called it false because that's what is it. If you've got a problem with that, take a good, hard look in the mirror.The examples given by Trump are a bit suspect and should be taken with a grain of salt.

But when ever there are statics for this sort of subject it doesn't matter how a person reads it, there will ALWAYS be a huge difference depending on where the sources came from, whose reporting them and how they are interpreted from the source. When using a % there's Always a large margin for error.

But again -- there are other statics. You can download a zipped file github.com It ranges from 2/1/2015 to 6/7/2016

Main Source (www.washingtonpost.com)with some interesting facts --- Tells all the details including Race, date, mental state, etc all in a excel spread sheet
This database is based on news reports, public records, social media and other sources

-- enjoy the read :)

Final comment -- I'd believe the reports in the Mirror as much as any reports on Stuff or NZ herald ;)
wainuitech (129)
1422800 2016-07-09 10:29:00 The examples given by Trump are a bit suspect and should be taken with a grain of salt.

But when ever there are statics for this sort of subject it doesn't matter how a person reads it, there will ALWAYS be a huge difference depending on where the sources came from, whose reporting them and how they are interpreted from the source. When using a % there's Always a large margin for error.

But again -- there are other statics. You can download a zipped file github.com It ranges from 2/1/2015 to 6/7/2016

Main Source (www.washingtonpost.com)with some interesting facts --- Tells all the details including Race, date, mental state, etc all in a excel spread sheet

-- enjoy the read :)

Final comment -- I'd believe the reports in the Mirror as much as any reports on Stuff or NZ herald ;)

There is nothing 'a bit suspect' about them. They're factually wrong, and bear no resemblance to reality. www.nydailynews.com

I will not play nice and pretend the truth must be somewhere in the middle between the different statistics, or bleat on about interpreting, taking things with grains of salt, margins of error, other statistics, or similar. That is simply not true: ​The 'statistics' B.M. posted are lies, pure and simple.
Nick G (16709)
1422801 2016-07-09 17:34:00 There's fallout from the assassination of the cops in Dallas, this morning.

Big city cops in the US are now more hesitant that ever to even enter into minority neighborhoods. That there has been a previous huge slowdown in arrests and patrolling those areas has lately (since the Boston incident at least) seen a serious jump in what is called "Self inflicted crimes" against their own neighborhood since the police footprint is now almost non-existent in them.

LA cops this morning refuse to enter minority areas without several units as backup for even a minor thing such as a petty theft from a market. Stores refuse to stay open after sunset and taxis and busses are also becoming scarce in those areas. The sidewalks are only populated by groups of minorities looking for crimes of the opportunity. Fire departments are requesting police escorts to enter alarm areas too.

I don't blame the cops and especially the fire departments for that slowdown because after all its just a job and if you want to work with thE likely possibility of job related death by lead ingestion, then the military is prolly a better place.
SurferJoe46 (51)
1422802 2016-07-09 21:41:00 No point arguing with Nick Wainui, he expects his opinion to be treated by all as gospel and without question. :rolleyes:

Moving on to your most interesting posts.

Where the Donald Trump statistics came from I do not know, which is why I headed my post “Make what you will of it.”

However, THESE (www.fbi.gov) guys put forward some interesting statistics but I don’t know if we should believe them either. :D To their credit they do explain how the calculations were made and interestingly, in one chart, murders where one person kills more than one person, aren’t counted. I figure they consider mass murders skews the stats, where of course you could argue that not counting them skews the stats. :confused:

Anyway, I’ve found why the Media don’t report every murder. (They don’t have time before there’s another). :D

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B.M. (505)
1422803 2016-07-09 21:55:00 Where the Donald Trump statistics came from I do not know, which is why I headed my post “Make what you will of it.”Of course you don't know where they came from! They are completely false. Nick G (16709)
1422804 2016-07-09 22:03:00 Of course you don't know where they came from! They are completely false.


ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz Well why don't you correct them. :lol:
B.M. (505)
1422805 2016-07-09 22:41:00 I'd just walk away nick.
There is no reasoning with BM, he always imagines he is right.
At least in his own, twisted little mind.

Regardless of reality.

It's sad but there you go. :(
KarameaDave (15222)
1422806 2016-07-09 23:05:00 There is nothing 'a bit suspect' about them. They're factually wrong, and bear no resemblance to reality.


@ BM -- Don't worry mate, I'm not fussed by Nicks one sided attack on everyone who doesn't agree with him. I deal with people like him all the time. There's one thing - there's no actual links to any statics from any source, just useless links to what Trump said. Trumps a Politician, and we all know they do things to get attention and cause debate - I've read BM's posts, cant see anywhere where its stated as fact.

So nick ol son how's about posting some FACTS - along with Links from creditable sources instead of spouting off and running down everyone else's posts. Put up !!

If you even bothered to look at the links I posted there's several there within the article going to various places along with a spreadsheet that reported events and where the data came from. There is also a graph that can be altered to look at what you wanted in particular. Bet it was never looked at.

So to post a screen shot of the options, please note that according to the statics more whites have been shot by cops than blacks or any other race.
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wainuitech (129)
1422807 2016-07-09 23:51:00 There's fallout from the assassination of the cops in Dallas, this morning .

Big city cops in the US are now more hesitant that ever to even enter into minority neighborhoods . That there has been a previous huge slowdown in arrests and patrolling those areas has lately (since the Boston incident at least) seen a serious jump in what is called "Self inflicted crimes" against their own neighborhood since the police footprint is now almost non-existent in them .

LA cops this morning refuse to enter minority areas without several units as backup for even a minor thing such as a petty theft from a market . Stores refuse to stay open after sunset and taxis and busses are also becoming scarce in those areas . The sidewalks are only populated by groups of minorities looking for crimes of the opportunity . Fire departments are requesting police escorts to enter alarm areas too .

I don't blame the cops and especially the fire departments for that slowdown because after all its just a job and if you want to work with thE likely possibility of job related death by lead ingestion, then the military is prolly a better place .

Some of the neighborhoods portrayed on the TV show "The Shield ( . wikipedia . org/wiki/The_Shield" target="_blank">en . wikipedia . org)" look pretty war torn with nasty shooting scenes involving corrupt cops . How then do TV companies get in to film (er . . . shoot) those scenes in shot up areas? Streets loads of it . . .
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