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1425626 2016-09-22 19:36:00 Who said Linux was dead in the water ?? -- No One. Many people simply want to look at whats being written, you'll find many of the counts are from the same people, every time a person visits the thread it will add 1, you do of course realize that a high number of the posts are your own, so if you went in 50 times there would be 50 views, not 26K people. Still a LONG way behind the thread you called "still not going".

You'll find as soon as problems stop getting asked the thread will fade into the never nevers.

Good you finally got it sorted, Till next time ;)

Goodness me Wainui, you really must see if Microsoft will de-programme you. Probably not if they are using a “Apple brainwashing App”. :eek:

However, to address some of the points you raise:


Who said Linux was dead in the water ?? -- No One. Not so, plenty of people have, including myself some 20 years ago.

I note that over 27,000 have now been reported to have viewed the thread and when that is weighed against only 200 posts and a time frame of just of just 16 days I can only conclude there is considerable interest in Linux and rightly so, so my contribution to the views and posts is therefore insignificant in the big picture. :)
B.M. (505)
1425627 2016-09-22 20:20:00 The difference between using sudo or gksudo/kdesudo is how the password prompt is asked, inside your terminal or as a GUI display prompt (a frontend to sudo). sudo gives the benefit of terminal output.

Different defaults used does not justify using one over the other, learn your sudo parameters to get the same effect.
Kame (312)
1425628 2016-09-22 20:58:00 Goodness me Wainui, you really must see if Microsoft will de-programme you. Probably not if they are using a “Apple brainwashing App”. :eek:

However, to address some of the points you raise:

Not so, plenty of people have, including myself some 20 years ago.

I note that over 27,000 have now been reported to have viewed the thread and when that is weighed against only 200 posts and a time frame of just of just 16 days I can only conclude there is considerable interest in Linux and rightly so, so my contribution to the views and posts is therefore insignificant in the big picture. :) Ha bloody ha. you're so funny. :p

If you wanted to believe that Linux was dead then that's your choice. To bad its incorrect.
Linux has never been user friendly like Apple or Windows, and as long as they insist on using commands to do some basic tasks it never will be. I spose if all a person wants to do is basic things like reading web pages, email it wouldn't be a problem.

As for the post count, well if people looking at this thread turns you on then good on it, here's a thrill, I just looked so the number has gone up by 1 :p

What you don't seem to realise, and if you care to look at other threads on other subjects, sometimes its when there is a post relating to what ever, and you get a few people who have a negative or smart / cheeky reply the view counts go up. Think of it as soap program.

Look at the majority of the posts that someone asks something and its answered rather quickly - low counts. This thread -- When ever a post drags on creating more pages the view goes up - people just want to see what's being said, DOESN"T mean they are interested in Linux at all. If there were thousands of replies from thousands of people then I'd agree.

Another example -- Sometimes it also depends on who is asking or replying in the thread, some people like to see what's being said. There's LOTS of people who will have the same or similar problem and don't ( for what ever reason) wont ask on a public forum, so they learn something as well.
I myself, when ever Chilling_Silence is discussing a networking or modem problem follow the thread, he always has honest reliable suggestions and you can learn a lot= higher view count.

Then of course theres googles and other search bots -- So hate to say it but it wont be all people that have viewed your thread.

Search engine bots can account for a high number of Views to the post, which portray a false picture of topic interesthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot
wainuitech (129)
1425629 2016-09-22 20:58:00 Ok guys my project for today is to Clone / back-up / or whatever it takes to get back to where I am now should I stuff something up.

What's the best approach to this with Linux Mint?
B.M. (505)
1425630 2016-09-22 21:18:00 Ok guys my project for today is to Clone / back-up / or whatever it takes to get back to where I am now should I stuff something up.

What's the best approach to this with Linux Mint? First you need to decide what you want to do, basically theres 3 options.

Clone = Exact copy of the Drive in a working state(plug it in and its exactly the same)
Image = Compressed single file that can be stored on something like a USB drive, and dropped back when required.
Backup = Just backing up any user data.

A quick google search brings up a program called timeshift ( for Linux) Meant to work similar to Windows system restore. But the Linux experts can advise.
If it works it would be good for minor oops !! but for real hum dinger stuff ups - may be not so.

But heres the link if you wish to read: www.unixmen.com
wainuitech (129)
1425631 2016-09-22 21:23:00 Ha bloody ha. you're so funny. :p

If you wanted to believe that Linux was dead then that's your choice. To bad its incorrect.

Goodness me Wainui you really must take your Microsoft Glasses off and read what’s written.

I said I was one who believed Linux was “Dead in the Water” 20 years ago.

I now believe it has come a long way and in fact easier to deal with than Win 8, Win 8.1 and Win 10 if it wasn’t for Classic Shell.

As for Win 10, I can’t wait for “now downloading version 13658762354987341”. :rolleyes:
B.M. (505)
1425632 2016-09-22 22:03:00 Goodness me Wainui you really must take your Microsoft Glasses off and read what’s written.

I said I was one who believed Linux was “Dead in the Water” 20 years ago.

I now believe it has come a long way and in fact easier to deal with than Win 8, Win 8.1 and Win 10 if it wasn’t for Classic Shell.

As for Win 10, I can’t wait for “now downloading version 13658762354987341”. :rolleyes:

Blimey, YOU are in for a shock. :eek:

You do of course know that Linux updates its version on average 2-4 times a year, Public release - which is way more than windows or iOS. ?

If you don't believe me look it up.

Windows 10 - updated version 2 times since July 2015 - August 2016 ( original + 2 upgrades)

Linux - Updated versions 8 times since April, 2015 - July, 2016

So who upgrades to new versions more ?
wainuitech (129)
1425633 2016-09-22 23:59:00 The Linux kernel is updated frequently, this does not mean that every user, on every distribution is updating their kernel so often.

Linux Mint, which BM is trying out, runs on LTS kernels which are changed infrequently.

Applications, Desktop Environment etc are updated as needed, as improvements and bugfixs are released.
Mint 18 allows the user to choose between three update policies so if you are update averse then choose the most conservative,
'Don't break my computer'. Personally I stick with the middle policy, 'Optimize stability and security'.
some tips here for fiddlers:
sites.google.com

As for system imaging and cloning there are quite a few possibilities but one popular one is Clonezilla

I suggest you-tube for tutorials on its use.

Mint has a 'Backup Tool' if that is needed also.
KarameaDave (15222)
1425634 2016-09-23 01:00:00 Wouldnt any CD Bootable imaging program work just fine ? Might be any easier option if you dont mind booting from CD to do an image
Use a imaging boot CD something you're familar with ?
1101 (13337)
1425635 2016-09-23 01:49:00 Wouldnt any CD Bootable imaging program work just fine ? Might be any easier option if you dont mind booting from CD to do an image
Use a imaging boot CD something you're familar with ?

I wondered that too but then thought maybe not, as Linux has a completely different file system, as I found out a couple of weeks ago when trying to install Mint on a blank disk in NTFS format. :rolleyes:
B.M. (505)
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