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| Thread ID: 142463 | 2016-07-06 03:46:00 | Ancestry trace | tut (12033) | PC World Chat |
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| 1422696 | 2016-07-08 21:57:00 | Sorry Lurking, I was a bit cryptic. I meant that if tut found he had links to the Forest of Dean I would be able to help him with a link to the Forest of Dean Family History Trust. They have all the Forest's parish records on line freely available to registered members - only a donation is sought. They also have lots of volunteers willing and able to help and lots of resources such as wills, historical documents, maps, and photos all on line. I am very lucky that my father's paternal line descends from the Forest and I have been able to trace all of that family back to my great great great grandparents through the Trust. Unfortunately it comes to a halt in the 1770s because there are no baptismal records for my great great great grandfather, and my great great great grandmother could be one of two people and I have no way of telling which! I am sure my great great great grandparents are first cousins though, which is probably why I have two heads... Have you any of the James family in your lot? Warren James of the 1832 Forest of Dean enclosures riot was an ancestor of mine. Who knows, you could be a cuzzy. :banana Ken :) |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1422697 | 2016-07-08 22:07:00 | Nope, no James in our lot. We may have had a relly in the killing of the bears at Ruardean though! When we lived in North Canterbury, we bought a house in a subdivision developed by a James family who named one of the streets Lydney Lane. I asked the younger generation if they had a Forest connection but they didn't know. Bet they did though, or why was that name chosen? |
John H (8) | ||
| 1422698 | 2016-07-08 22:50:00 | I'm doing my mum's at the mo. I managed to go back to 1766! Good to see Maoris have such good records. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1422699 | 2016-07-09 00:05:00 | Have to remember Cic we are all of mixed Race some way or other,even though it sounds like you're British, your ancesters and mine would be from anywhere over Europe or beyond Be interesting to see if anyone here has had their ancestry traced with one of those DNA tests ,like Willie Jackson most would be in for a few shocks |
Lawrence (2987) | ||
| 1422700 | 2016-07-09 00:25:00 | Good to see Maoris have such good records. Actually there are a wide range of records of Māori genealogy apart from the obvious current governmental ones. Some are post colonial, such as the whakapapa books that have been put together by lots of whānau, hapū and iwi (e.g Ngai Tahu have a huge register of descendants). Others are pre-colonial in origin (and the whakapapa books are based on pre-colonial records in part). The main records are oral of course, but if you have ever worked with people who have an oral tradition you will realise how accurate they can be. Secondly there are whakapapa sticks that are used as an aide memoir for someone reciting whakapapa, and many are pre-colonial in origin, handed down over the generations with the oral whakapapa recitation. I don't know anything really about rosary beads, but I think whakapapa sticks work kind of like rosary beads in that they keep the holder of the oral record on track and prompt a particular response. |
John H (8) | ||
| 1422701 | 2016-07-09 04:32:00 | NZ Archway Archives (https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/) may help. Though it seems if the person relates to Govt dept's, e.g. certain court orders, lands, NZ military, probates, Govt war "rest homes", etc. | kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1422702 | 2016-07-09 05:27:00 | Actually there are a wide range of records of Māori genealogy apart from the obvious current governmental ones. Some are post colonial, such as the whakapapa books that have been put together by lots of whānau, hapū and iwi (e.g Ngai Tahu have a huge register of descendants). Others are pre-colonial in origin (and the whakapapa books are based on pre-colonial records in part). The main records are oral of course, but if you have ever worked with people who have an oral tradition you will realise how accurate they can be. Secondly there are whakapapa sticks that are used as an aide memoir for someone reciting whakapapa, and many are pre-colonial in origin, handed down over the generations with the oral whakapapa recitation. I don't know anything really about rosary beads, but I think whakapapa sticks work kind of like rosary beads in that they keep the holder of the oral record on track and prompt a particular response. A wonderful culture indeed J, you must tell us what you have found that is a benefit to NZ. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1422703 | 2016-07-09 05:34:00 | Good to see Maoris have such good records. My mum isn't Maori, she's European / English. Most of her descendants came from England / immigrated to Australia and NZ. And most of them live around Hamilton / Te Awamutu, and Oz now. And most of them are buried in Hamilton / Palm North (or somewhere round here), and Christchurch The Maori side would be harder to find / trace. I dont think it would go way back to 1766 anyway. But there is a family tree on the wall, up in Kaitaia (for my dad's side) which shows you who married who and their children. |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 1422704 | 2016-07-10 05:26:00 | Yeah been doing it for a while. I extended it a bit obviously. This tree includes the Turnbulls, which inc the current Aussie PM. It also inc Princess Diana's side If any of you lot are related to the Huxley's, the Gospers, the Turnbulls, the Dorrington/Durrington's, the Cox's, the Ireland's, the Detloff's, the Chaseling's, the Clibben's, the Cobcroft's. Lawler's, Bridge's, Dunston's/Dunstan's, Ellems, they're probably in my tree. Most of them are or were in Oz And if you're a descendant of Ann Forbes, / related to the Huxley's in Oz, there's a FB page full of their descendants There is a Annie Matilda SPENCER in my line, she married a Frederick HALL in 1894, but that is tooo up to date. A line with a similar surname to ours migrated on the Mayflower in the 1600's and the contact in America stated that our line was connected, I lol.. As close as we come to royalty, my 6 times G-Grandfather was a Yeoman farmer in Wiltshire, rofl. lurking. |
Lurking (218) | ||
| 1422705 | 2016-07-10 05:38:00 | Sorry Lurking, I was a bit cryptic. I meant that if tut found he had links to the Forest of Dean I would be able to help him with a link to the Forest of Dean Family History Trust. They have all the Forest's parish records on line freely available to registered members - only a donation is sought. They also have lots of volunteers willing and able to help and lots of resources such as wills, historical documents, maps, and photos all on line. I am very lucky that my father's paternal line descends from the Forest and I have been able to trace all of that family back to my great great great grandparents through the Trust. Unfortunately it comes to a halt in the 1770s because there are no baptismal records for my great great great grandfather, and my great great great grandmother could be one of two people and I have no way of telling which! I am sure my great great great grandparents are first cousins though, which is probably why I have two heads... The Welsh can't play rugby, so they make up for it in other ways, like the wife's Welsh lady friend. As you say there are a lot of sites that offer free look-ups, but one needs to lay out money to get definite results. The IGI site used to be a good starting off point, but they have passed it over to pay sites now, Ancestry.com and FindMyPast.co.uk. 1770's, they were still lopping off heads no doubt. Just recently been told that a relative on my mother's side was hung and quartered ,, only two were treated that way in a revolt up in Derbyshire, the 200 year anniversary is next year, don't think we will attend, might come to a sticky end. http://www.pentrichrevolution.org.uk/ lurking. |
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