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Thread ID: 150538	2022-03-22 01:18:00	Who would have guessed?	CliveM (6007)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
1485048	2022-03-22 01:18:00	That all it would take to start the removal of all our current restrictions/mandates was a couple of bad polls for the government:)	CliveM (6007)
1485049	2022-03-22 02:14:00	Its actually more the fact that Covid is now 100% loose in the public, and there is nothing they can do now. cats out of the bag. So they are dropping the rules & restrictions . There will still be requirements to be covid vaxed to do certain things, eg get on some planes or get entry to some countries.	1101 (13337)
1485050	2022-03-22 02:15:00	Seems all the covid modelling, that the govt would have paid millions for , turned out to be BS . :)	1101 (13337)
1485051	2022-03-22 02:34:00	Trying to preserve the illusion that human beings are in control of their own destiny. Would be better to keep masks and some restrictions, like everyone should be vaxed and boosted to try and slow the numbers down, it's almost runaway now and all the talk in the world won't make much difference if measures aren't carefully chosen. This pandemic is a long way from over, hope the businessmen (mostly national party) are satisfied that their profit motives have prevailed over common sense, and they are now making plenty of money since they can open their businesses without many restrictions and the customers are flooding in. LOL.	zqwerty (97)
1485052	2022-03-22 02:50:00	and they are now making plenty of money You mean so they can employ and pay staff, giving them jobs, can feed their family and send the kids to school with shoes, contribute to the country by way of personal and business taxation, as well as their employees PAYE? Surely you have a better idea? We just borrow and put everyone on welfare. No-one works, owns businesses, pays tax etc etc? Then they won't lend to us, what do we do then? You are very lucky there's a filter on here called Jen.	allblack (6574)
1485053	2022-03-22 03:05:00	Don't be silly, trying to push sh!t uphill by opening up completely is ignoring reality and wishful thinking of the worst kind which has resulted in a worse outcome than if we did attempt to achieve zero covid even if it is not possible, we would have probably had lots of areas with much reduced covid and people could have carried on as we did in the first part of lockdown. The clamoring for back to normal has resulted in deserted streets of shops in the CBD's and lots of sick staff and customers, with people staying away from possible contact with covid because they know things are actually out of control and nobody in charge really looks like they know what they are doing anymore. The business men are calling for a return to subsidies so don't talk about benefits to me as if only poor people require them. Lots of these businesses seem to rely on tourism which won't be back anytime soon so propping them up and paying subsidies to lost failed business ideas is a waste of time. People are not realizing that Covid is a huge problem which cannot be talked away or ignored. We need to wait in a "holding pattern" until more and better vaccines emerge, whenever that is. Quite a few more people (mostly in the older age group) are now dying everyday with the new and risky path we have taken.	zqwerty (97)
1485054	2022-03-22 03:08:00	Seems all the covid modelling, that the govt would have paid millions for , turned out to be BS . :) Funny that. GIGO doesn't work as a crystal ball. Of course, beats me why it's popular.	piroska (17583)
1485055	2022-03-22 03:24:00	The Press today, states that China has over 500,000 with visas are not allowed to come to NZ, toooo much covid. The Press March 9th, virus hits Queenstown's core, one owner has 11 venues, wowww, now that's what I call "greed", he is temporally closing 6. Same with the ski field owner with 3 of them. lurking.	Lurking (218)
1485056	2022-03-22 03:31:00	Lots of these businesses seem to rely on tourism which won't be back anytime soon so propping them up and paying subsidies to lost failed business ideas is a waste of time. No argument there. I'm sick of listening to CBD businesses whinging about the people WFH and the CBD is dead. Yep, it's a sea-change. Way of the future. Sell up and move on. Who the hell would wanna go to Auckland's CBD??	allblack (6574)
1485057	2022-03-22 03:49:00	You should see Christchurch's CBD, what a mess, a combination of the remnants of smashed up buildings and roads, higgledy - piggledy shops appearing out of nowhere and strangely out-of-place new buildings due to bad planning and a general feeling of alienation, vacant lots (bomb-sites), and remember it's been more than 10 years since the quakes. We were there in central CBD the other day trying to get a smart phone sim at 2 Degrees shop in Cashel Street, surly, bored and obnoxious staff, we won't be heading back anytime soon and both of us have been here for most of our lives. It's a really uninviting place, no wonder it was fairly deserted, not just fear of covid. Robotic university educated town planners and bureaucrats without a clue it seems as to what makes humans feel at home and enjoy the environment. Christchurch Central City used to be a lovely place to visit, homely cafes and old specialist shops for a start.	zqwerty (97)
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