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| Thread ID: 150473 | 2022-02-12 19:54:00 | Not swearing when you are swearing | Roscoe (6288) | PC World Chat |
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| 1484288 | 2022-02-12 19:54:00 | It's surprising how many people say, sugar! Or shoot! Or effing. They are just fooling themselves into thinking they are not swearing. My daughter does that. I tell her that she should not be swearing in front of her son but she tries to justify it by saying that she is not swearing. It's not what is said, it is the way it is said and the context in which it is said. Swearing is swearing no matter what you say. But, although she is an intelligent girl - she's a teacher - she is quite adamant, she is not swearing. I don't know what to say to convince her - or anyone else - that despite what she says, she is swearing and our grandson is going to grow up thinking that swearing is acceptable.:groan: What do you think? Is substituting a swear word for another word still swearing. I think so. |
Roscoe (6288) | ||
| 1484289 | 2022-02-12 20:19:00 | Having been in the motor trade for a large percentage of my life, nothing is quite as satisfying as a good spray of bad language when, for example, a spanner slips and takes a lump of skin of ones knuckles. Very helpful!! I am sure that those on the forum... mechanics, builders, plumbers et al will agree with me. Ken. :) |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1484290 | 2022-02-12 20:41:00 | You answered your own question. It's not what is said, it is the way it is said and the context in which it is said You can say something with the exact same words and depends on the tone of your voice can mean two different things. Thats why emails or forum posts can go pear shaped real quick. Someone can send something and another person takes it differently to how it was meant, yet if you can actually hear the voice you get the real meaning. In talking you can tell someone to get stuffed with a smirk, smile etc, and they hear its as a joke, but write it and it can have exatcly the oppersite effect. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1484291 | 2022-02-12 20:49:00 | Having been in the motor trade for a large percentage of my life, nothing is quite as satisfying as a good spray of bad language when, for example, a spanner slips and takes a lump of skin of ones knuckles. Very helpful!! I am sure that those on the forum... mechanics, builders, plumbers et al will agree with me. Ken. :) Or when it goes from 25C on Friday to 6C today and flooding on your property. Mid Feb and we have the fire alight for the second weekend in a row yet the week between was 25C Bliidy annoying |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 1484292 | 2022-02-12 20:49:00 | You answered your own question. You can say something with the exact same words and depends on the tone of your voice can mean two different things. Thats why emails or forum posts can go pear shaped real quick. Someone can send something and another person takes it differently to how it was meant, yet if you can actually hear the voice you get the real meaning. In talking you can tell someone to get stuffed with a smirk, smile etc, and they hear its as a joke, but write it and it can have exatcly the oppersite effect. +1 |
CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1484293 | 2022-02-12 20:58:00 | You answered your own question . You can say something with the exact same words and depends on the tone of your voice can mean two different things . Thats why emails or forum posts can go pear shaped real quick . Someone can send something and another person takes it differently to how it was meant, yet if you can actually hear the voice you get the real meaning . In talking you can tell someone to get stuffed with a smirk, smile etc, and they hear its as a joke, but write it and it can have exatcly the oppersite effect . Thank you, Wainui . But perhaps I did not make the point as well as I would have liked . What I was trying to say that my daughter's son - our grandson - will grow up thinking that swearing is acceptable . I'm not too happy with that . Having been in the motor trade for a large percentage of my life, nothing is quite as satisfying as a good spray of bad language when, for example, a spanner slips and takes a lump of skin of ones knuckles . Very helpful!! I am sure that those on the forum . . . mechanics, builders, plumbers et al will agree with me . Ken . :) And I do agree with you, Ken . While a good mouthful does not fix the skinned knuckles, there is a certain amount of satisfaction . :lol: |
Roscoe (6288) | ||
| 1484294 | 2022-02-12 21:25:00 | What do you think? I think you're looking for a story that ain't here. If mine dropped a glass and broke it (for example) and they said 'sugar!' I'd be impressed, given what's come out of my mouth. She isn't swearing, she's substituting because she been raised all proper like. There's a world of difference between shoot! and ****! |
allblack (6574) | ||
| 1484295 | 2022-02-12 21:49:00 | Thank you, Wainui. But perhaps I did not make the point as well as I would have liked. What I was trying to say that my daughter's son - our grandson - will grow up thinking that swearing is acceptable. I'm not too happy with that. I know exactly what you are referring to, BUT Allblacks post Says it nicely. Unless the kids are going to held captive, not allowed out of the house, or go to school, not allowed to interreact with others ( kids esp) then they will pick up all the swearing in Schools etc. It depends on if they do as Allblack posted. Kids aren't dumb, they can be sweet little angles, butter wouldn't melt when parents are about, polite, dont swear, but get them on their own with friends and the whole manner changes. Think as Jekyll and Hyde. ;) |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1484296 | 2022-02-13 01:47:00 | We weren't allowed to swear as kids, especially not in front of Mum. I was shocked when Mum herself started swearing like a trooper once we'd all grown up and left home. Seems it was all for our benefit (6 kids) But don't fool yourself into thinking your kids don't swear just because you teach them not to, away from parents and in their own groups of friends they learn to swear as well as anyone. Also in my case my older siblings taught me well. I went to a boarding school, the F word was basically a general purpose tool and often just used for emphasis. I can only remember one or two kids that didn't swear much out of 60ish and that was only when they first arrived. And on another tack, words are just noises we have assigned meaning to. They are only offensive if the person speaking them intends them to be or if the person hearing them chooses to consider them so. I always liked the trick used in shows like Red Dwarf or Galactica where they substituted Smeg and Frak for common swear words. You knew exactly what they were saying without upsetting any censors :) Also calling someone a Smeghead just has a nice ring to it. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1484297 | 2022-02-13 04:04:00 | I have a Smeg oven? Could be that's why it gets dirty and needs washing out with soapy water occasionally Ken :) |
kenj (9738) | ||
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