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| Thread ID: 150531 | 2022-03-13 22:01:00 | Petrol versus Electric | kenj (9738) | PC World Chat |
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| 1484963 | 2022-03-14 22:16:00 | I watch this channel often and this was posted today. youtu.be Could be the answer to it all. Ken Thanx. An interesting video. |
paulw (1826) | ||
| 1484964 | 2022-03-15 03:30:00 | Interesting topic. I was discussing petrol-electric hybrids with a taxi driver (in his Prius) a while ago. He said it wouldn't bother with electric because it only stays on electric up to 40 Km/hr then switches to petrol. Is that what happens? He also made a comment regarding the cost of replacing the batteries and finding someone to service them that doesn't charge $$. I don't remember all the details, but he said you could replace some of the cells to avoid having to replace the entire battery, and this made the life expectancy stretch further. His comments put me off petrol/electric hybrids. | Jen (38) | ||
| 1484965 | 2022-03-15 04:53:00 | Depends on the version, the regular hybrids only do full electric for very limited distances and speeds and you have no control over it other than being gentle on the throttle. There is an EV mode button but all it really does is let you sneak down the driveway if you have a full battery and not much else (not kidding). The plug in version aka prius prime will happily do 100km/h on electric and for 40-50 km or thereabouts, it will however start the petrol engine to assist if you get too aggressive with the throttle or the battery is getting low. Hybrid = fuel efficient petrol car, you can basically ignore the fact that it's got a battery and electric motor when considering one and just compare on whatever criteria you want. Some efficient petrol only vehicles can come pretty close to the same efficiency. Plug in hybrid = short range electric vehicle that becomes a hybrid once you use up the electric range A couple slightly different hybrids are the BMW i3 rex and the Nissan e-note. The BMW is a full electric car with 100-200km range (ish) depending on model, the rex version has a small 3 cylinder motor that can kick in and keep the car running when the battery gets low that roughly doubles the range, essentially a longer range plug in hybrid with a weak petrol engine that only generates electricity as a backup. The Nissan is a serial hybrid (so is the BMW technically although a plug in one), which means like the BMW the motor only generates electricity and doesn't drive the wheels. It uses the electric drivetrain from a leaf but has a much smaller battery. It's a petrol powered car that drives like an EV, kinda novel and apparently very efficient. Most hybrids are the parallel type where the electric motor and the petrol engine can both physically drive the wheels and work together when needed for extra power. Toyota make parallel hybrids. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1484966 | 2022-03-15 19:46:00 | That's the reason we bought a new petrol 2 litre Corolla a year ago now, after having our 2004 model for 14 years. Tried out the hybrid, but didn't like the motor kicking in as soon as you put your foot down a bit.The petrol has more power, quite noticeable, and the hybrid was $3000.00 more then. Worked out that the then petrol cost would work out at 5 years running for the $3000.00. That and the unknown ongoing costs for the hybrid decided me. Put the $3000 into a towbar and side window deflectors. Of course we're planning on keeping the car for a while! |
Neil McC (178) | ||
| 1484967 | 2022-03-15 21:52:00 | Is the gearing by CVT? If so, be careful of the weight you tow. Do some checking as the CVT apparently isn't designed to take heavy loads. www.aa.co.nz |
Bryan (147) | ||
| 1484968 | 2022-03-16 04:57:00 | Is the gearing by CVT? If so, be careful of the weight you tow. Do some checking as the CVT apparently isn't designed to take heavy loads. www.aa.co.nz That amongst other reasons is why I can't understand why more people are not driving manuals. I do and in 30+ years of driving have only had one auto, it lasted 6 weeks before I got rid of it. |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 1484969 | 2022-03-16 05:39:00 | That amongst other reasons is why I can't understand why more people are not driving manuals. I do and in 30+ years of driving have only had one auto, it lasted 6 weeks before I got rid of it. minimum number of gears on a current ute is 6. many have up to 10. can you see the average joe trying to work 10 gears? plus modern auto's are a lot better, not quite so fuel hungry than they used to be and far more reliable. tho some designs like cvt's are inherently weak and typically only used on light small cars. i'm driving a car with a DSG automatic manual gearbox which is kinda ok. but still reliability is an issue and the gearbox is worth more than the car. most people drive auto's these days to the point that manuals are special order and some manufactures no longer have cars with them. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 1484970 | 2022-03-24 03:47:00 | Well the petrol has come down a bit not just the government's 25c contribution. I also see petrol stations who used to be 25c per litre more than others, down to 15c then 1c different and now back to 10c. At the end of the day for me. We only drive 6-8,000 km/year so it doesn't warrant it. Maybe for those who drive more mileage. $3,000 per year for petrol the $30k diff takes 10yrs to break. Maybe just because people get bored and want a different vehicle for fun? Maybe those who are used to paying $60k for a vehicle? Perhaps in the future EV and Hybrid cars come down in price to within $10k difference? Since the OP has or had an interest in photography. Maybe it is a bit like digital photography. Digital cameras have come right down in price but in the past digital cameras cost a premium. Not camera enthusiasts but normal people had fully working film cameras for the handful of photographs they took per year but still purchased digital cameras. Granted cameras are not as costly as a car. Due to the lower running costs, maybe people drive more like digital photographers shoot more ..... just cos they can when they wouldn't do so with film costs. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 1484971 | 2022-03-24 18:56:00 | That amongst other reasons is why I can't understand why more people are not driving manuals. I do and in 30+ years of driving have only had one auto, it lasted 6 weeks before I got rid of it. Wow, why? And what car? My parents always had autos, dad had to, he only had one leg. The last one lasted 15 years and was still fine when sold. It was a Honda Civic. |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1484972 | 2022-03-24 19:52:00 | I prefer driving a manual vehicle. I so miss my school driving job even being 3 years since I retired (where does time go??) Being the senior driver I always got to try out any new vehicles but by choice I went back to the manual 1998 Toyota Hi Ace which I drove around 300,000K in my 11 yrs. Loved the old girl! Ken :) |
kenj (9738) | ||
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