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Thread ID: 150539 2022-03-22 05:12:00 If It's Boeing, I Won't Be Going zqwerty (97) PC World Chat
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1485079 2022-03-22 21:43:00 Boeing were entirely to blame for the 737 MAX debacle and paid the price, this is the model before called the 737 800, it has been a very reliable aircraft and this is the first of this type of crash with this model, there are hundreds of them in service all over the world. China has recalled/grounded all of its 737 800 fleet. zqwerty (97)
1485080 2022-03-23 04:31:00 No in the news tonight they showed the plane diving from 29,000 feet, recovering at about 8,000 feet, flying level then diving vertically into the ground.

See here: "Without access to data stored onboard the plane’s so-called black box recorders, investigators can’t determine exactly how or why the jet crashed. But preliminary data from flight tracker website Flightradar24 indicates that, at about 100 miles from its destination and just as the Boeing 737 should have begun a controlled descent, the aircraft lurched into a nosedive, plummetting from its cruising altitude of 29,100 feet to 3,225 feet, its last known signal, in just over a minute and a half.

Flightradar24 data suggests flight MU5735 hurtled towards earth at a rate of over 30,000 feet per minute. In a still-unexplained twist, Flightradar24’s data shows that, after falling for over 40 seconds, the plane halted its nose-dive and began to climb again, regaining 1,000 feet in roughly 10 seconds, before plunging once more."

From here:

fortune.com

dumb media.
if you look at the actual flighttracker it doesn't show any leveling off, just a fairly straight run down.

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tweak'e (69)
1485081 2022-03-23 04:38:00 Latest news is observers said the plane appeared undamaged whilst vertical diving into the ground. Black boxes still to be found, strangely no bodies, but a fair amount of clothes and usual debris around the site.

Presumably most of the heavy solid bits ie engines will be buried underground since it was a vertical dive and not a landing whilst not powered.

Also strange the fact that debris was spread over a large area is hard to understand as the plane was coming in to land and probably had not much fuel onboard, and it was a vertical crash so why the large area of spread? Maybe they were pulling out of the dive in the last few seconds? Doesn't seem likely from that video however.

your not finding bodies after hitting at that speed. they just explode on impact.
impact area didn't look all that big. it depends a fair bit on angle it hits the ground at. remember they are hitting the side of a mountain so angle can vary a lot.
tweak'e (69)
1485082 2022-03-23 22:08:00 Looking on flightradar at the number of planes in the air at any one time particularly in the northern hemisphere - there are thousands and probably half of them are Boeing including military aircraft. The death of people from a plane crash is always going to be tragic but needs to be put into perspective. Not sure what time Pres Biden is flying to Poland on Friday but it will be interesting to watch the increased USAF and NATO presence in the air which already has stratotankers, surveillance, and other aircraft continually flying over Poland, Romania and the Black Sea. bellbird (6169)
1485083 2022-03-23 23:19:00 I heard they have found the black box.

Ken
kenj (9738)
1485084 2022-03-24 01:03:00 I heard they have found the black box.

Ken

No, they found the orange box.
decibel (11645)
1485085 2022-03-24 01:25:00 Yeh yey:)

Ken
kenj (9738)
1485086 2022-03-24 01:35:00 Was it intact? Zippity (58)
1485087 2022-03-24 01:46:00 Not sure

Ken
kenj (9738)
1485088 2022-03-24 01:49:00 www.bbc.com

Note the flight path diagram at the end of the page, the kink.

Also:

graphics.reuters.com

"The flight that crashed instead began a rapid descent to 7,425 feet before recovering briefly to 8,600 feet and then went into another dive, Flightradar24 data showed. The last tracked altitude was 3,225 feet above sea level."

China has more 737-800 planes than any other country in the world also the youngest fleet of the aircraft.
zqwerty (97)
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