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Thread ID: 150513	2022-03-04 18:36:00	Hugh Perrett: TV1 presenters use of Maori phrases on TV	Roscoe (6288)	PC World Chat

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1484729	2022-03-05 08:26:00	Its beyond a joke. Maori is a domestic language, and has no practical value. I have to watch ABC & BBC news to hear my language, English. I receive letters from Government departments, full of Maori words which are meaningless to me. They go back "return to sender". As for teaching Maori in school, fair enough if its done on a voluntary basis. Simplified Chinese would be a useful one to learn as they are New Zealand's main trading partner. I wasted many hours trying to learn Latin, French and German at school. Never used any of them. +1	prefect (6291)
1484730	2022-03-05 09:45:00	I wasted many hours trying to learn Latin, French and German at school. Never used any of them. I spent two years making any sense of Latin, and for the life of me couldn't grasp then (as now) what the real use of amo, amas, amat, amamus, amtis, amant were, except to satisfy the little old wizened Latin teacher we'd done our homework. Having said that, without any formal schooling in French or German, these days I find Latin gives me the ability to decipher some of what is being said and thus a basic understanding as those languages and English share a common root. Don't forget Latin does have its uses if only to set the legal profession above the (in their view) uneducated masses and satisfy their vanity. Seriously, many phrases we use in everyday language are from Latin ... affidavit, bona fide, alias, sub poena, pro bono. Although these tend to be used in a legal context. But Maori? Non. Nyet. Nope. Nah. NIHIL! (got it). I had the misfortune to do a year or two at St Stephen's School, probably due to Dad having had a falling out with the then Head at Pukekohe High School and I think may have done a deal with St Stephen's to grant me UE in return for my enrolment and thus lift the average IQ of Form 6, and better the bottom line of the school's fortunes. So I traded one pathetic language (Latin) for another (Maori). Although I never took any classes in Maori, the school conducted its (Anglican) church services in Maori so I learnt pronunciation reasonably well and something-ty years later can still recite the Lord's prayer in Maori, by rote. That of course is of academic interest only, as I said farewell to organised religion years ago and now have even less use of what I learned. And an interesting aside: at St Stephens, it was an almost Aryan pakeha boy who was to top the school in Maori studies in our final year. Said pakeha boy went on to study Maori in depth, write many text books and was considered an Authority in things Maori ... Professor John Moorfield, a luminary at AUT.	WalOne (4202)
1484731	2022-03-05 20:23:00	I think Maori usage is needed to differentiate us from becoming just another America, or other country. It gives us a difference that we can exploit for commercial purposes (rights for using Maoriisms in Games and movies and TV shows, certainly helps the tourism bring in income. I think what is missing is a practical explanation of why everyone needs to to learn some phrases. Are we looking at merging Maori and English language to create our own unique language?	the_bogan (9949)
1484732	2022-03-05 23:00:00	This from the beginning of Luxon's speech this morning. Enjoy being the majority. "Kia ora koutou katoa, Da jia hao, Namaste, Sat Sri Akal, Assalamu alaikum, Talofa lava, Malo e lelei, and good morning everyone. Thank you so much for joining me here today."	allblack (6574)
1484733	2022-03-05 23:33:00	I think Maori usage is needed to differentiate us from becoming just another America It is too late. We are becoming just another America. There are many instances of Kiwis (young Kiwis in particular) copying American speak and spelling, just too many to list. And learning moari is not going to influence or change that. The spelling I notice the most is program for programme and traveler for traveller and many other word that have a double l. I don't understand why Kiwis have to copy the Yanks. We have our own perfectly good version of English based on the Queen's English, but unfortunately it is slowly losing ground to Yankee English. But, I recall, when we visited the USA, we were talking amongst ourselves and there was a pause in the conversation. A young girl nearby said, "Don't stop talking. We love your accent.";)	Roscoe (6288)
1484734	2022-03-06 03:15:00	We need a like button in this forum :):+1: Unfortunately Maori is being rammed down our throats more and more to the point it's almost like listening to pidgin . Just look at the AM Shows weather man.	paulw (1826)
1484735	2022-03-06 04:15:00	We all know how hopeless the UN is, just another League of Nations fiasco that hitler had to sort out. www.tpk.govt.nz Wonder who put up this before the un, notice the red indians are also in line for more rights. lurking.	Lurking (218)
1484736	2022-03-06 04:18:00	I haven't watched TVNZ (or 3) news in a year. I read news all day so why bother, it's all old by 6pm. As for the maori, it doesn't bother me at all. We live in a country p[previously inhabited by maori, so a few phrases here and there? And? Tourists, well quite a few, come here and go to Rotorua, enjoy visiting maraes, seeing various maori things, and buy souvenirs. No-one says you must learn it if you don't want. But the fuss some of you make, it's bordering on rabid racism.	piroska (17583)
1484737	2022-03-06 05:21:00	racism. I was waiting for that card to be played, I just had my money on someone else playing it. You were my second choice, if that makes you feel better.	allblack (6574)
1484738	2022-03-06 06:37:00	I feel fine, thanks. I don't live in fear of a few phrases of a language used by the original inhabitants of a country being used commonly in public. It amazes me that people are so frightened of it. BUt then some are full of self-interest and maintaining a status quo. Others lack a strong identity and struggle with insecurity, bolstering their own worth by beliefs of superiority,. A few suffer from paranoid personality disorder and narcissism . Sad really, they should look to getting help rather than spouting nonsense that just perpetuates their own fears.	piroska (17583)
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