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Thread ID: 59351	2005-06-29 09:23:00	Burglar alarms	Mercury (1316)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
367991	2005-06-30 22:37:00	You could install a security camera,at least you would have some nice pics of the villains.	Cicero (40)
367992	2005-07-03 10:32:00	Well the update is... - New deadlock installed on front door a few days ago - Burglar alarm installed this afternoon (a wired version) - All 3 tenants advised to take out insurance. Interestingly enough they are umming and ahhing about the insurance but have suggested that we install a couple of extra deadbolts on two of the bedrooms. Great. Just what we need. If burglars break in again then we will have to fix damaged doors as well (and the kids would still be out of pocket)! At least in this instance our free excess on glass covered all our damage - ie the window. The insurance doesn't, however, cover internal damage which could be considerable if damaged doors were involved. We will leave this idea in the meantime. We have, once again, pointed out to them that it is a good idea for tenants to have insurance in case they burn the house down. Our insurance would rebuild it - but if their cooking or faulty appliance caused the fire then our insurance company would ask them, oh so nicely, for the cash. We discovered this one a couple of years back when articles appeared about Dunedin students with bad cooking skills and a vindictive insurance company. Copies of the articles went to all our tenants but it obviously fell on deaf ears.	Mercury (1316)
367993	2005-07-05 20:58:00	I have work for an insurance company and have had a wireless alarm for the last 3years. We had bought it when we were renting and moved it to our own house. It works a treat/ great and i do get a insurnace discount. We do give clients a discount as well. With regards to changing of the battries well there a many types a wireless alarms avaiable. The one that i have is a monitored one where in the battey runs dead not only does the sysem tell you the monitoring company calls you and let you know as well which sensor (smoke/ sensor).	alopes (5331)
367994	2005-07-05 21:02:00	Give me a call on 0800 808 808 - extension 95656. if im busy leave a message and i will cal you back Chester	alopes (5331)
367995	2006-05-19 07:40:00	I've recently installed an Arlec wireless alarm with motion sensors etc and it gives me a great feeling of peace. Also I bought the extension siren for $15 and it is much louder and more alarming. Also they give you warning stickers to place on your doors to scare burglars away. I think most burglars are people who would be scared away by a screaming alarm siren. My neighbour bought a dog but where I used to live the burglars shoot the dog instantly to silence it. So I don't feel that dogs are much of a deterrent. Monitored alarms would be okay but I doubt that anyone will show up in time to catch the thief. Make sure you're insured whatever you do. The arlec I bought warns when the batteries are getting low, and also it plugs into the mains if you want it to so that the batteries are only there for backup.	thornstone (8439)
367996	2006-05-19 07:57:00	Monitored alarm costs $30 a month, free installation.And you can get sensors that ignore pets. You also get a reduction on insurence costs. How can you go wrong? Pay our alarm bill, why don't ya. PJ :help:	Poppa John (284)
367997	2006-05-19 23:14:00	I decided after a burglary to update our security with a security camera. As I walked into the lounge with the new camera still in its bag I realised I was too late - we had just been done again. Laptop and camera gone again. I went to town on security after that. Window stays on ALL opening windows, (I do regard 2 stays per window as impractical though), the security camera rigged up, we no longer leave a good spade outside (they used it as a jemmy to force a sliding door). All sliding doors have a "lump" dropped into position so that they cannot be jemmied open, and finally CHUBB alarms fitted. To our delight when Tower heard about the last action they refunded my $35 of our last premium and lowered our annual rate. What we learned. Little point in having a securiy firm notified of a break in. By the time they take any action it is far too late to be effective. Better spending the fee on more insurance. Our back gate is permanently locked now so no entry there. (We actually found one stranger down there who had "mistaken" our house for his girls friends place!!) The electricity company have a key in order to get to the meter. You must have the alarm in an obvious place and warning notices aplenty on windows etc. Despite the Chubb alarms being the standard type and not the sort that can tell if cats have activated it we have had no problems with our 3 cats. The installation engineer positioned the detectors to avoid them. It is essential to have things like jewellery, expensive items etc., noted by your insurance company or you can find the payout is standard and not enough. Tower we have found generous and helpful. We have been left alone since the above precautions. And I am touching wood! Tom	Thomas01 (317)
367998	2006-05-21 03:41:00	Burglar Alarms Here's another approach to help make the bad guys think twice. Go to your local Dick Smith Store and purchase a ID MICRODOT Marking System. As the name suggests these are microdots with a unique code printed on them. The idea is to put these on your valuables. A thief would have a hard time locating them all. Therefore your gear is worthless to them. They can't keep it or fence it without fear of being caught. It's a great deterrent. The kit comes with warning stickers. It is rather expensive but you can mircodot about 120 items. Good value. Perhaps you and your tentants could go halves. To learn more about this great system go to idmicrodot.co.nz (http://idmicrodot.co.nz) Imported into New Zealand by the car alarms specialist MONGOOSE, so it's gotta be good!! BURNZEE	Burnzee (6950)
367999	2006-05-21 04:25:00	nice idea but few people even bother checking for invisable pen markings let alone microdots. i don't think any theif would worry about any microdots.	tweak'e (69)
368000	2006-05-21 05:05:00	That's the whole point, but the Police do!! If you went to the site as stated above you would see the Mongoose have equipped the New Zealand and Australian Police with proper microdot viewers. The Police have heaps of equipment they don't know who owns them. In the paper recently they were complaining about the amount of cellphones they couldn't reunite with their owners. That's just cellphones. The tip of the iceberg. Take a situation where the Police suspect an item is hot. They do a check but can't prove its stolen. No charges and you lose your laptop forever!! However if you microdot it, and the Police spot it, they then access the ID MICRODOT Database and find your details. You get your computer back and they nail the bad guy. This system doesn't replace other commonsense ideas as explained by others but is in addition to them. BURNZEE	Burnzee (6950)
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