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Thread ID: 59351 2005-06-29 09:23:00 Burglar alarms Mercury (1316) PC World Chat
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367981 2005-06-30 10:07:00 Just some thoughts

The idea is to make your home unwelcome for burglars.
Put up net curtains so they can't see inside your house
Move valuables away from windows
Install double bolt deadlocks on Front and back doors.
Install "anti-kick pins" on doors as well
Have solid front and back doors with a peep hole.
Install window locks on all windows
Install patio bolts on sliding doors
Have locks on internal doors so sections of the house can be locked off.
Lock all gates and keep hedges low.
install outside lighting around the outside.
Install an alarm put a number of sirens on the inside of the house (hidden)
Alarms are only good if people are around to respond to them, so if
you live in an area where everyone works ( and a good burglar will work this out) it's not much point (IMO) even if it's connected to a monitoring firm,
how long is it going to take for them to arrive ?

A little bit over the top maybe ?
wmoore (6009)
367982 2005-06-30 10:19:00 Watch the programme that is on on Thursday nights at 7.30pm on TWO. To Catch a Thief is what it is called. It gives a good insight as to what to do to a house. Jeremy (1197)
367983 2005-06-30 10:22:00 Well I have a strong feeling that whatever we do wouldn't be enough if someone was really determined to break in (Metla's post kind of indicates this and so does the wonderful "Teach the burglar how to do it" program on TV. Thanks State.)

Upping security merely adds to the amount of damage and cost to clear up.

We were told when we put the security stays on (partially to encourage ventilation) that windows should really be closed to prevent burglars otherwise they would force them. In this case the window was closed so they just broke the glass. Two stays will probably cause more damage to the frame. But one never knows - it might be that final deterent.

An alarm might have made the difference. There was someone home next door but she was on the computer at the far end of the house. It will be interesting to trial the alarm and see if she can hear it from there.

A gate at the top end of the drive might have worked - unless it was a close to home job of course - but with 5 people using it at random intervals through the day it will drive them crazy in a week and be permanently open by the end of the month.

The real question of course is "why does one have to live with paranoid security? Is this the kind of society we want to live in?"
Mercury (1316)
367984 2005-06-30 11:00:00 The most effective alarm according to the burglars who are occasionally put on TV programmes to give advice is a big dog. Preferably one that doesn't like strangers. Dally (6292)
367985 2005-06-30 11:20:00 you will never stop at determined burglar. monitored alarms are easy to defeat, just cut the phone cables for the entre block. doors, why bother with doors when you can smash throug the walls.

however their is a lot of simple things that can be done so they will go find easier targets.

its amazing how many people leave a house unlocked or the key under the mat.
tweak'e (69)
367986 2005-06-30 11:24:00 The trouble with the Big Dog idea is that although it keeps you safe it also makes you an Undesirable in the community. Another minor matter is that it is also hard to find a place to rent - we are talking of a rental here.

We've had labradors for many years and the reaction of strangers is to either:
a. climb the nearest power pole whilst reaching for the cellphone to call the thought police
b. to fall all over the poor dogs and stun them with cuddles.
Mercury (1316)
367987 2005-06-30 12:35:00 not to mention the copious amounts of poo and nuturing... then theres the cost of dog food, then the medical bills..... :D :rolleyes: bob_doe_nz (92)
367988 2005-06-30 13:28:00 then the medical bills Two knee ops in last year... on different knees. The disabled dog is Not Happy! Mercury (1316)
367989 2005-06-30 20:44:00 I was only quoting a career burglar on TV when asked what was the best alarm said,"A dog". He explained that when casing houses to break in if they had a dog he would cross them off as there was always easier targets down the road. I realise this is probably not an option for someone renting a property and there are management issues with a dog for homeowners but if you want to reduce your chances of being robbed get one. Dally (6292)
367990 2005-06-30 22:17:00 My :2cents: worth. For my work I visit people who have been burgled, so I (may) know more than most.

A dog is a definite deterant. Less than 1% of people I see a year have reasonable size dogs.

It doesn't matter what area you live in, burglars aren't choosy (and most can drive).

About 25% of the people I see have alarms (which were supposedly switched on)

90% are burgled in daytime

At least 30% have sections backing onto parks/schools or shared right of ways

I see less than 5% again in the same year, so I don't know where the '40% of people are burgled again when they get new goods' statement comes from. Sounds like scare tactics to me.

My advice is:

Get a dog and get used to having a furry friend that craps everwhere :D

Take reasonable precautions, dead locks etc, but don't get paranoid. If it's going to happen not much can stop them getting in.

Make life easier for everyone after the fact and list/photograph/keep receipts for everything you own. Makes it easier for you to remember what's been taken and keeps the insurance companies happy!
Shortcircuit (1666)
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