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Thread ID: 59470 2005-07-03 13:38:00 Cricket in Zimbabwe: Tour Or No Tour? vinref (6194) PC World Chat
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369035 2005-07-03 13:38:00 Sneddon says the tour should go ahead. The Green Party is attempting to draft legislation to prevent it.

Sneddon and the Cricket Council should have known there was going to be trouble - the boycott measures against Zimbabwe are long-standing in Europe and North America. Any such contact with Mugabe simply reinforces his actions. If everything is normal and countries like NZ are willing to have normal relations with him despite what he is doing, why change his ways?

And NZ and Zimbabwe cricket teams suck anyways. So why muddy the name of NZ unnecessarily?
vinref (6194)
369036 2005-07-03 22:52:00 NO tour
And I want to know why Mugabe is still walking around, the butchering maniac should be 6' under by now.
It amazes me how people of countries with maniacs like him in charge put up with them for so long.
If anyone treated my wife and kids like he has done to the millions he is supposed to be looking after he wouldn't see another birthday

And once again the UN is proving just what a bunch of toothless old women they are.
Thay are nothing short of pathetic and we should pull out.
(No offence meant to old toothless women)
bartsdadhomer (80)
369037 2005-07-03 23:25:00 The last time I saw the Zimbabwe cricket team it seemed to be composed of mainly white anti-Mugaba players. Why aren't these people refusing to play thus negating the need for anyone to tour. It is their country and a boycott by them would have far more impact than anything New Zealand could do. Dally (6292)
369038 2005-07-04 00:33:00 The last time I saw the Zimbabwe cricket team it seemed to be composed of mainly white anti-Mugaba players. Why aren't these people refusing to play thus negating the need for anyone to tour. It is their country and a boycott by them would have far more impact than anything New Zealand could do.

Dead right.
But from what I can gather the ICC can impose huge fines on players and Associations for not fulfilling their obligations
The ICC obviously cares more about $$ than human misery
bartsdadhomer (80)
369039 2005-07-04 01:10:00 It's Britains legacy of having taught the colonials how to play cricket :rolleyes:

Cecil Rhodes has a lot to answer for!
Terry Porritt (14)
369040 2005-07-04 01:12:00 Dead right.
But from what I can gather the ICC can impose huge fines on players and Associations for not fulfilling their obligations
The ICC obviously cares more about $$ than human misery
No, NZ does. Sport and money vs dead Africans. Naturally they'll go.
I find it intersting this is in the news at the same time as Live 8. People suck.
pctek (84)
369041 2005-07-04 01:17:00 Interesting point pctek. I wonder how the NZ Cricket Council manage to reconcile their feelings about suffering Zimbabweans and the need for two second-rate sides to play cricket? vinref (6194)
369042 2005-07-04 02:58:00 What is really interesting is the silence from out of Africa. Mugabe's neighbours aren't saying anything to condemn his actions. You can bet that if this was happening under a Belgian, French, or British administration, they'd be up in arms.

On the other hand Nelson Mandella is saying the Group of 8 leaders must listen to Live 8 and help. How about South Africa itself helping the poor dispossesed people of Zimbabwe, just over the border.

The real difficulty with helping African nations is that the benefits become sidetracked through corruption and make the depraved leaders more powerful. Of course this doesn't just happen in Africa - witness the Balkans where aid went astray or was simply stolen during the 1990s.
Winston001 (3612)
369043 2005-07-04 03:04:00 The South African government is turning out be just as big hypocrites as the colonials they replaced. South Africa supplies probably all of the electricity and telecommunications infrastructure, as well as moral support and guidance, to Zimbabwe. Thus they can and should exert pressure on what now seems like a man who regards the whole country and it's people his own private property, which he will not relinquish. vinref (6194)
369044 2005-07-04 03:18:00 I think NZ cricket has its hands tied by the ICC. Why don't the NZ players just individually make themselves unavailable? Like all "get the flu"? That is what I would do if I was in the team, (which would then be even worse).

Remember that any money that went to Zimbabwe from ICC fines would very likely end up in the dictator's hands anyway. Do YOU want to finance his further atrocities? Cause I certainly do NOT!
slofox (5767)
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