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| Thread ID: 59647 | 2005-07-08 13:08:00 | raising the alcohol purchase age to 20? | imarubberducky (7230) | PC World Chat |
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| 370604 | 2005-07-09 18:46:00 | OH! I do beg to differ there! We DO have a very nasty drug/alcohol problem here, although not in my home. The current drug of choice is black tar heroine, and next is Vicadin hydrocodone bitartrate, which is cooked down to the coke inside it, the tylenol being thrown away. Booze-wise it is anything for a cheap thrill...Annie GreenSprings coms to mind, but may now be outta production. After all, one could throw a really good drunk on 1/2 a bottle, and it sold for 89 cents a bottle. A 44.5 cent drunk! The drugstores (apothocaries? NZ?) have a new law regarding the sales of over-the-counter cold remedies..the worst offender being Sudafed which is cooked for the speed in it. We are so close to the US/Mexican border here (90 miles) that the flow of stuff is constant and cheap. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 370605 | 2005-07-09 19:02:00 | Whew.... You've got me reeling a bit here to take all of that in. Might need some time to think about it - especially as 5.55am here & haven't been to sleep last night (Don't ask...) But nice to have the California feller onboard . Other opinions are always good. |
Laura (43) | ||
| 370606 | 2005-07-09 23:38:00 | Hey Laura. While i can understand and sympathise with your situation i still dont believe that raising the alcohol age to 20 will change it. Firstly teens are more likely to get their alcohol from their parents, rather than their friends. (ALAC) (www.alac.org.nz Document2.1036.69aab996-f292-42d7-9e71-913c791f6f9e.pdf) Secondly cannabis is illegal yet teenagers are still using it, so obviously they arent paying attention to the law. Instead i think we need more education, and we need to get rid off, or cut back on alcohol advertising which is counteracting the education. Teenage drinking has actually been increasing since 1993, when alcohol advertising was introduced. We also need harsher penalties for those who drink drive and other alcohol related offences. And thirdly 52% of adults consider themselves binge drinkers, surely that is the biggest reason why teenage are binge-drinking, they're mimicing their parents. (ALAC) (www.alac.org.nz Document1.1034.5a724dae-ec89-4e18-85e3-9bb829b52636.pdf) ALAC found that those living in more "sober enviroments" ie religous familes, were less likely to drink alcohol. (ALAC) (www.alac.org.nz Document1.1034.5a724dae-ec89-4e18-85e3-9bb829b52636.pdf) ALAC btw is the Alcohol Advisory Council However what this law will do is prevent adults (18 and 19y/os) who are paying for their own education, living away from their parents, maybe even raising their own child, from having a beer. But more importantly it will dictate an adults social life, by preventing him/her from visiting places that serve alcohol. (ie bars, clubs, concerts.) It will then send 18/19 y/os underground and into the same unsafe and unstable situation as the 15 and 16 y/os are in now, and you'll have an even larger group vandalising your cars. |
imarubberducky (7230) | ||
| 370607 | 2005-07-10 00:33:00 | qouted here: It will then send 18/19 y/os underground and into the same unsafe and unstable situation as the 15 and 16 y/os are in now, and you'll have an even larger group vandalising your cars . . . . to which I add . . . . . and a drunken 18/10 y/o is a lot better developed physically and can do much more damage than a weaker and younger drunk! |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 370608 | 2005-07-10 01:13:00 | Might as well have 2c worth. Since time "immemorial" in England the age was 18 when you could go to the pub and buy a drink. There was none of the booze culture there comparable in any degree to here in NZ. We were horified when we came here at the happy hours, works Xmas parties, works "do's" (Public Service at that), all had to have gallons of booze on the tables, and the measure of a good time was how much booze could be sunk. Hand in hand with the NZ booze culture is the NZ driving habits culture, which has been discussed in detail on PF1 also. Fiddling with the law will not do any good at all. Only continual educational campaigns over the years is likely to change attitudes. But against that we have those who protest violently about being told what to do or not to do. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
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