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Thread ID: 59867	2005-07-15 00:19:00	Feminism and the State of Society	Veale (536)	PC World Chat

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372428	2005-07-15 06:32:00	working for bp in the early ninties pumping gas, working beside me were two ex telecom managers, both made redundnt, but both prepared to do the work. Problem is these days young people don't want to do the work they feel is beneath them and prefer to go on the dole. If push comes to shove i will sweep and mop floors for minimum wage if that's what it takes to pay the bill's...	plod (107)
372429	2005-07-15 06:55:00	Rubbish, where you been living, Gotham City? It is statisically proven that crime, and more importantly 'serious crime' (although our legal system fails to distinguish between the two) has risen dramatically over the last few decades. Ah yes statistics. No comment., As for the "last few decades", I did say for 1000's of years. Same old same old. People bleat about the same things forever. So now its all these lazy people sitting about not doing work. Here's one for you. My brother has been a "bludger" for the last few years. He'd love a job, he even completed an IT course at polytech. No-one will hire him as he is now nearing 50 and is handicapped in various ways. Now someone will come up with a whole bunch of reasons what he's done wrong I bet. Maybe you lot don't have enough to do if you have time to come with this sort of moaning about others.	pctek (84)
372430	2005-07-15 06:59:00	Metla, very laudable, no argument with that at all. Mr. Plod, also very laudable and no argument with that either. I have also worked on the factory shop floor 60 hours a week, rather than be unemployed after a factory closure in UK. Coming back to young peoples behavioural patterns, a lot of the problems arise from the regression to an uncaring society. When there was full employment, then crime rates, and antisocial behaviour was far less. People left their doors unlocked, ask anyone who was around. I like this passage: "At this festive season of the year, Mr. Scrooge," said the gentleman, taking up a pen, "it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir." "Are there no prisons?" asked Scrooge. "Plenty of prisons," said the gentleman, laying down the pen again. "And the Union workhouses?" demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?" "They are. Still," returned the gentleman, "I wish I could say they were not." "The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?" said Scrooge. "Both very busy, sir." "Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course," said Scrooge. "I'm very glad to hear it." "Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude," returned the gentleman, "a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?" "Nothing!" replied Scrooge. "You wish to be anonymous?" "I wish to be left alone," said Scrooge. "Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don't make merry myself at Christmas, and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned: they cost enough: and those who are badly off must go there." "Many can't go there; and many would rather die." "If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. ... It's enough for a man to understand his own business, and not to interfere with other people's. Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!" — Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol. "I pay my taxes, let them eat cake!" - Veale :) Now for some tunes: www.redhotjazz.com www.redhotjazz.com	Terry Porritt (14)
372431	2005-07-15 07:32:00	I agree with Metla & Plod. Any job is better than NO job. It is easier to get a better job from just a job. After all how many brain surgeons do we need ( Ok the Aussies need more!!). On the odd occasion when I was between jobs my sense of worth decreased. Even tho the time off was probably good for me. Now? I am 67 very shortly & have been forbidden to work since I was 58. Have you any idea what that felt like to someone with a very strong work ethic like I had? Knowing I would not go back into the work force again? Not even allowed an office job. Demoralising. With streuous activity I literally fall over/down. Good luck & good fortune, I hope, will follow the youngsters who are working NOW, in whatever job it is. Got to do a lot for their self worth don't you think? Oh yes, I am reaping the benefits from the Govt Healt & Retirement scheme to which I contributed for so long on a weekly basis. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PJ	Poppa John (284)
372432	2005-07-15 08:42:00	Rubbish, where you been living, Gotham City? It is statisically proven that crime, and more importantly 'serious crime' (although our legal system fails to distinguish between the two) has risen dramatically over the last few decades. The Department of Statistics freely-available numbers from 1995 - 2004 is here (xtabs.stats.govt.nz %20from%201995%20to%202004). I can't find anything before that, but the general trend from 1995 to 2004 is downwards.	vinref (6194)
372433	2005-07-15 08:49:00	working for bp in the early ninties pumping gas, working beside me were two ex telecom managers, both made redundnt, but both prepared to do the work. Problem is these days young people don't want to do the work they feel is beneath them and prefer to go on the dole. If push comes to shove i will sweep and mop floors for minimum wage if that's what it takes to pay the bill's... There's dignity in work when you have to - any work.	vinref (6194)
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