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Thread ID: 60036	2005-07-20 10:39:00	VHS vs BETA... not	plod (107)	PC World Chat

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373916	2005-07-20 10:39:00	So people, what's going to be the winning one, blueray(sony,disney) or HDDVD( everyone else) Yes the new war is about to start, who want's to be an early adoptor? Who's going to wait and see?? Me I'm hoping for blueray from sony, because it looks the way apple are going to go... As fot the spec's Im not sure but it goes something like this, Blueray 50gig single layer, HDDVD 50 gig on a triple layer disc..	plod (107)
373917	2005-07-20 10:59:00	neither. Its overkill for the sake of it,and most people don't have a television or computer monitor that is compatible with the output.	Metla (12)
373918	2005-07-20 11:02:00	I was thinking more of a storage medium, DVD's were over kill as well when most people were still using floppies or even cd's	plod (107)
373919	2005-07-20 11:17:00	hmmm.....Doubt I could scrounge up 50Gb to burn to disc,and I certainly wouldn't trust a disc with that amount of info... As to what I was referring to, the HD content will only be of use on a high-definition display,so nearly every TV set is rendered useless (hope you Xbox2 and PS3 fans comprehend the implications, you need a 10 thousand dollar TV set that simply aren't on the NZ market) And the encrption that will be built into movies will require a hardware decoder built into the monitor for playback,which means every single computer monitor on the planet is rendered unusable....this is to stop people recording the streaming video,which of course won't even cause pause for pirates but will hit consumers around the head,up the backside and in the pocket. As for a back up media, Cd's caught on because people could make music cd's and because they can hold more then enough data for the average Joe and beyond,DVD's caught on for movies (home video and copies) what part of 50GB wuill attract the mass's? Just my thoughts, I foretell a fizz.....	Metla (12)
373920	2005-07-20 11:21:00	Yes there have been lot's of technology I thought would never catch on and they did, And some I thought would fizz and did(laser disc's)They reminded me of taking my lp collection around to mate's house in empty beer crates	plod (107)
373921	2005-07-20 12:43:00	Melta, care to backup your statements with facts?	Steven (7085)
373922	2005-07-20 12:59:00	I would need a 50 gig disc within 18 months, I already have HD editing and dvd authoring software on my consumer machine, due for a new video camera and computer in 18 month camera will be a hd one, My music colllection sit's well over 20gig's so it would be nice to back that up on one disc, same with photo's......... I believe we need to embrace new technology's to keep our files backed up properli(just dont know what technology yet) I have heard about the encryption in monitors, wether that will come to fruit is anyones guess. Copyprotection only disadvantages the lawfull, as for the reat of us,we will be breaking the protection within months if not days of this coming out.. monitor copyright (digg.com)	plod (107)
373923	2005-07-20 13:04:00	Melta, care to backup your statements with facts? which parts? Its obvious that a low res tv (as we all have) will only display a low res image,so while a next generation console will work fine we will all be missing the high-res graphics and HD media content. As for the encryption, This is being pushed for by the movie industry in order to get their suport,and MS have announced such media will be restricted on Longhorn and require the above described monitors, I will scrounge up some articles on this.....	Metla (12)
373924	2005-07-20 13:06:00	here (www.digital-cp.com) for you metla	plod (107)
373925	2005-07-20 13:36:00	With Longhorn, Microsoft will begin pushing opium. Well, technically it’s OPM. However, opium might be a good option for those livid that the video content being sent to their pristine 24-inch Dell LCD monitors is purposefully being “fuzzied” (more on that later). So what is OPM? The successor to Microsoft’s rarely-mentioned COPP (Certified Output Protection Protocol), PVP-OPM (Protected Video Path – Output Protection Management) is the first play in Microsoft’s game plan to ensure that protected content stays protected. PVP-OPM performs two main functions. First, it detects the capabilities of the display devices attached to the computer. For instance, does the DVI LCD monitor that you’re using have HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection)? Second, it manages what, if anything, gets sent to those devices. If you’re one of those rare people whose display is equipped with HDCP, you’re fine. However, in the world of computers, those users are few and far between. While HDCP has become the de facto standard for display copy-protection in televisions, its penetration in the computer display market would be pleased to merely be called anemic. Whether you’re plunking down money for one of the new ultra-fast LCD displays with 4ms response times or you’re becoming the envy of neighborhood with Dell’s UltraSharp 2405FPW widescreen display, you’re buying a monitor that won’t play nice with premium content in Longhorn. So what will happen when you try to play premium content on your incompatible monitor? If you’re “lucky”, the content will go through a resolution constrictor. The purpose of this constrictor is to down-sample high-resolution content to below a certain number of pixels. The newly down-sampled content is then blown back up to match the resolution of your monitor. This is much like when you shrink a JPEG and then zoom into it. Much of the clarity is lost. The result is a picture far fuzzier than it need be. That’s LUCKY? It sure is — when the alternative is a black screen. If OPM determines that your monitor falls below the security restrictions (i.e. isn’t DVI or HDMI w/HDCP), you could be greeted with a “polite message explaining that [your monitor] doesn’t meet security requirements.” www.engadget.com	Metla (12)
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