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Thread ID: 59981	2005-07-19 02:35:00	My view exactly re muslim attitudes.	Cicero (40)	PC World Chat

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373375	2005-07-20 02:49:00	Cook was eaten by the people of Fiji.... Um, Hawaii actually.	Greg (193)
373376	2005-07-20 02:52:00	Anyhow, due to the effort required in getting facts from picture books I simply get my views from Cheesy 80's metal (Very evy,Very British) Cue musical interlude (a little ditty about colonisation) Run To The Hills White man came across the sea He brought us pain and misery He killed our tribes killed our creed He took our game for his own need We fought him hard we fought him well Out on the plains we gave him hell But many came too much for Cree Oh will we ever be set free? Riding through dustclouds and barren wastes Galloping hard on the plains Chasing the redskins back to their holes Fighting them at their own game Murder for freedom the stab in the back Women and children are cowards attack Run to the hills, run for your lives Run to the hills, run for your lives Soldier blue in the barren wastes Hunting and killing their game Raping the women and wasting the men The only good Indians are tame Selling them whiskey and taking their gold Enslaving the young and destroying the old Run to the hills, run for your lives [repeat to end] Wait, There is more . . Savage Who gives you the right to come here and tell me I have to leave this place my home To you it's a jungle, to me it's a kingdom Where people are free there to roam Born with the stars we are happy and peaceful 'Til now we were left undisturbed But you rupture the forests our gardens And fill them with filth from your cities unheard Savage, who is savage Leave your morals, stake your claim Savage, you are savage Modern man can take the blame You poisoned my tribe with civilised progress Baptising our blood with disease You christened our bodies with sadness and suffering Saying then that your god is well-pleased What have we done to deserve such injustice Explain to us please if you can But you can't, no you can't, we can see it in your eyes Of us both who's the primitive man Savage, who is savage Leave your morals, stake your claim Savage, you are savage Modern man can take the blame You poisoned my tribe with civilised progress Baptising our blood with disease You christened our bodies with sadness and suffering Saying then that your god is well-pleased What have we done to deserve such injustice Explain to us please if you can But you can't, no you can't, we can see it in your eyes Of us both who's the primitive man Savage, savage Savage, savage Who's the savage Modern man Who's the savage Modern man Take that Shake-his-spear . . . . . . . . . Muhahahahaha	Metla (12)
373377	2005-07-20 02:52:00	Um, Hawaii actually . Lol . Ah well .	Metla (12)
373378	2005-07-20 02:55:00	Im keen to say 24-hour ban on personal abuse/insults....	Chilling_Silence (9)
373379	2005-07-20 03:08:00	Agreed. The legacy? The English legal, commercial, and political systems which endure in many former colonies to this day. Including the United States.. I'd say that's a Roman legacy. Which, in my opinion, not enough countries have adopted.	Greg (193)
373380	2005-07-20 03:23:00	Agh, some people just have no idea about English/British history. For a start, they never "invaded" anyone.... if you think invaded, then think the Nords, the Romans, the Spanish, the Mongolians and more recently the Germans and Japanese. England was always a victim of invaders, from the North, East and South. What England did was colonise, which ain't nearly as bad as outright pillage, plunder and massacre. Sure, England is guilty in her past of brutally trying to assimilate other nations, but she always preserved their cultures, and in fact valued them. Think about it... if England invaded any foreign nation, where is the legacy of it today... I mean what other territory in the world apart from the British Isles is called England? (ok, apart from the Falklands et al which were basically devoid of any national status at their time). Give the English a break - they weren't anywhere near as bad as their contemporarys! What a joy it must be to live in the dream world you call reality. The link below shows Britains illustrious country conquests. Fortunately for the Brits very few of these welcomed the new rulers with open arms and thereby got the S&%t kicked out of them. England a victim????? I suppose Hitler was a victim too, all those people ganging up on him, poor fella. Britains babies (www.thecommonwealth.org) And for you Terry. More quotes? You really do bore me. Your own thoughts on the subject would be preferable. As for Churchill, he is honored as such because he took the moral high ground on this occassion. If you will recall, only 50-60yrs prior to WWII starting the queen regularly received presents of Maori head decorated with moko. And I recall about 5 yrs ago reading an article about an australian man still holding a valid "abbo permit" originally issued a hundred years ago to his family granting him a permit to hunt aboriginies, such a cultured, god-fearing society. England houses some dark, dirty skeletons in its closet hidden behind men like Churchill.	Veale (536)
373381	2005-07-20 09:29:00	Yes that silly man Gandhi - what was he complaining about, all those nice English people just popping over for hols to India. And borrowing the nice treasures to show that fat Queen back home.	pctek (84)
373382	2005-07-20 11:27:00	I'd say that's a Roman legacy. Which, in my opinion, not enough countries have adopted. Well no. Europe used the Roman/Napoleonic codes of commerce and law. The European political systems also did not have the clear separation of Church and State. For example consider the Inquisitions which held sway in many countries. There was no Inquisition in England even Pre-Reformation.	Winston001 (3612)
373383	2005-07-20 11:31:00	Just as a matter of idle curiosity, how many of us read the article Cicero referred to? I only ask because there has been a deathly silence on what is an interesting and relevant issue, to wit: tolerance of other cultures. How far do we go before saying enough is enough?	Winston001 (3612)
373384	2005-07-20 11:52:00	Seeing as I don't own the country I could care less what cultures people come from and what they do,untill it infinges on my day its not an issue,though they should be made to live by the same laws as the rest of us (that means no face masks in court ladies,and if the mad bombers could cut it out it would be good) During my time in Sydney I lived in places so multicultrel it was hard sometimes to remember what country you were in, 2 things that I noticed, The range and selection of food was excellent and when the neighbours argued I couldn't understand a word of it.	Metla (12)
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