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| Thread ID: 60268 | 2005-07-27 07:10:00 | Legalities of school policy, | Prescott (11) | PC World Chat |
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| 375937 | 2005-07-27 07:10:00 | At school we are not allowed cell phones. If we need them we have to hand them into the office so they can look after/play around with them. If they are seen in class they are confiscated, this is fair enough. You shouldn’t really use them in class. But if they are seen at lunch time for example they are still taken off you. The “punishment” is that you don’t get your phone for a whole week, and this will include the weekend. Now my question is, can the school legally keep your cellphone for a whole week? This is basically like me taking the principal's car keys for a week so he can't drive his car……but no, Im not allowed to do this. :rolleyes: so why can the school be able to do this to their student's cell phones? I want to fight this, it is ridiculous. |
Prescott (11) | ||
| 375938 | 2005-07-27 07:13:00 | Haha, cellphone withdrawal! They can because its a school. While you are at school they are in loco parentis. I used to think it was just as unfair to have my smokes and earrings confiscated. Just hang in there until 3:30pm. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 375939 | 2005-07-27 07:30:00 | we dont get it back at the end of the day, we get it back a week later,including the weekend | Prescott (11) | ||
| 375940 | 2005-07-27 07:38:00 | Just dont give it to them, and ya be fine | jackrulz (2216) | ||
| 375941 | 2005-07-27 07:41:00 | that semi works, but then there is the phone call home..... the school wont even give back the phone to the parent. :groan: |
Prescott (11) | ||
| 375942 | 2005-07-27 07:45:00 | Legally, yes they can do that. By enrolling at the school you agree to follow school rules, and if their rules include cellphone bans, with consequences which have been defined, then yes, they can keep them as long as they want. If they say they will confiscate them for 3 months, and you get caught, then they can legally confiscate it for 3 months. If the school rules say that they will confiscate.... bright yellow pens (hypothetically speaking), then they can do that. As long as they return whatever they confiscate (eventually), and give advance notice of the consequences of breaking the rule, then it's fine. The simple way: 1) Don't use it around school. Keep it switched off and in your bag, and nobody will ever know. 2) Only use it in the most isolated areas where you won't get caught. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 375943 | 2005-07-27 07:49:00 | Just a side note: The schools can even dicate what you do coming to/from school, if you are not with your parents (eg. walking to school). They are your "local parentis" (as mentioned by pctek), and literally from the moment you leave your house in the morning, until the time you arrive home, they are responsible for your wellbeing, and can set whatever rules they like - provided they are not illegal rules. If you're happy with your school's policy, then find another school to go to, or complain to your school's BOT - pester your Student Rep to the BOT and get them to talk to the Board on your behalf. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 375944 | 2005-07-27 07:54:00 | thats what i do, but still some of my friends have been caught and i just wondered to what extent they can do it, but still its not fair :p they brought this new extended punishment in a while ago. so this also must mean they can take my car off me for a whole year if they please.... so guess i will just have to deal with it :rolleyes: |
Prescott (11) | ||
| 375945 | 2005-07-27 08:00:00 | From the YouthLaw website: Can the school confiscate an item or jewellery they say breaks a school rule? The school can require you to hand over items which are banned at the school, or which are dangerous, or which are disturbing others? learning or being used to cause a nuisance . However they can?t use physical force to take items off you, unless there was an immediate threat to someone?s safety or property . Apart from illegal items such as drugs or weapons (which they could hand over to the Police) your school would have to hand confiscated items back to your parents as soon as reasonably possible . The confiscation of your property should not be treated as the punishment . A different type of punishment can be imposed if this is necessary . In general things which are not illegal for you to possess like walkmans, skateboards, or non-uniform clothes should be returned to you no later than the end of the day . The law is that your rights as the owner of these things should only be interfered with to the minimum degree necessary for the school to achieve a lawful purpose (such as maintaining a safe and effective learning atmosphere) . If the item which is confiscated is illegal for you to possess because of your age (such as alcohol or pornographic material) but wouldn?t be illegal for an adult to possess, the school should normally give it to your parent(s) as soon as possible) . . youthlaw . co . nz/default . aspx?_z=66#_Toc20550769" target="_blank">www . youthlaw . co . nz |
Steven (7085) | ||
| 375946 | 2005-07-27 08:04:00 | Refuse to hand it over and see what they do. Though I once refused to sit while a jumped up little deputy pricipal tried to talk to me like a dog (i was a good 8 inches taller then him) he freaked out to the point of needing to be sllapped like a hysterical woman when I refused to sit, and I have no doubt if I wasn't larger then him he would have tried to manhandle me. Still, I laughed at him and told him he was a joke. Which garenteed the rest of my time at that school was shaped by his opinion of me (meaning I got the short end of the stick by default) And I bumped into a bullyboy science teacher a few years ago who had caned me till I bled, Seems he wasn't so quick to hand out violence when confronted in the middle of town with his wife and children.Sadistic little ****. |
Metla (12) | ||
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