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| Thread ID: 60490 | 2005-08-03 08:30:00 | Boy racers and hoon control | netchicken (4843) | PC World Chat |
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| 377938 | 2005-08-04 05:17:00 | Electronics can only control the power (torque) or braking applied to individual wheels and for obvious reasons cannot control steering input. To get the Audi to swap ends would be very simple, get up to adequate speed in a straight line then wind on plenty of lock. Don't touch the accelerator or brakes and around she'll go.Said Director tried that. not sure how fast, but I would be guessing 160+ to full lock: no slide. He's out of the office at the moment, but I'll confirm details with him later. We don't limit the engine capacity, but the engine watts. So people under 18 can't have a car where the unmodified engine makes more than say 85kw.This would work better than contoling the volume of the motors, but I think we need to factor the weight of the car in as well. Otherwise you end up with 1000s of 2 door rocketships. -Qyiet |
qyiet (6730) | ||
| 377939 | 2005-08-04 05:27:00 | OK I have rethought the first post and have solved the problem yet again . We don't limit the engine capacity, but the engine watts . So people under 18 can't have a car where the unmodified engine makes more than say 85kw . Problem solved, hoons in 1100cc honda civic's don't look so cool . What are you ON about? My family's 87hp (~50kw) toyota corolla will happily do 160km/h, it has done it . That's enough to easily kill all occupants of the vehicle . I can drive up to 100 on the motorway in under 15 seconds, comfortably . Cars ARE dangerous if you want them to be, and nothing physical we do can stop that . Speed limiting would actually have an effect (eg 105km/h) but only on the motorway . Doesn't stop me cruising across town at 105km/h . . . It also makes passing more dangerous . The definition of the speed limit in NZ is the fastest speed you may travel, unless passing . If you want to pass a long truck going at 95, because it's blowing smoky crap on your windscreen, then you can't safely do so at the speed limit . You'd be in the opposite side of the road for about 20 seconds . The only thing that makes me not speed is the fact that I'm responsible . I could drive at 160 if I wanted to, and no physical limits could stop me from driving irresponsibly if I decided to . |
george12 (7) | ||
| 377940 | 2005-08-04 05:39:00 | errr I think I meant 85hp .... I think ... anyway piss weak cars that drive like slugs with 4 people in is my intention. (BTW I once had a hilman hunter on CNG that one mechanic said was the slowest car he had ever driven - but it only cost me $4 per week to run) What are you ON about? My family's 87hp (~50kw) toyota corolla will happily do 160km/h, it has done it. That's enough to easily kill all occupants of the vehicle. |
netchicken (4843) | ||
| 377941 | 2005-08-04 05:40:00 | Read my edited response. The power is irrelevant. I could kill every occupant in the car with a 40hp engine if I felt like it. And you can't GET cars that weak (except perhaps by pulling out two spark plugs....). | george12 (7) | ||
| 377942 | 2005-08-04 06:19:00 | The definition of the speed limit in NZ is the fastest speed you may travel, unless passing . Sorry, but thats incorrect . My workmate has the bit of paper to prove it . Passing at 116 and got fined . Just letting you know so you don't go past that truck at 130 and get stung . Cheers . |
echothreezero (6612) | ||
| 377943 | 2005-08-04 06:36:00 | That's not what it says in the 2005 road code... | george12 (7) | ||
| 377944 | 2005-08-04 06:49:00 | www.landtransport.govt.nz Where? |
echothreezero (6612) | ||
| 377945 | 2005-08-04 06:52:00 | www.landtransport.govt.nz not here that's for sure... |
echothreezero (6612) | ||
| 377946 | 2005-08-04 06:53:00 | Said Director tried that. not sure how fast, but I would be guessing 160+ to full lock: no slide. He's out of the office at the moment, but I'll confirm details with him later. Just pause and think about that statement for a second! Consider the physics and the forces involved, and how electronic traction control could counter lock-to-lock steering input at 160+ kmh. Traction control and auto-steering correction using braking of individual wheels are good technologies, but you'd need Harry Potter to pull that one off. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 377947 | 2005-08-04 06:53:00 | Sorry - I'm not trying to be a smartarse, but you simply are not allowed to exceed the speed limit under ANY circumstances. | echothreezero (6612) | ||
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