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| Thread ID: 60490 | 2005-08-03 08:30:00 | Boy racers and hoon control | netchicken (4843) | PC World Chat |
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| 377918 | 2005-08-03 10:02:00 | Wouldn't work. <1500cc cars are not common, it would screw up the car economy. Engine size has no bearing on how fast drivers go, if you want to do 160km/h a 1.5L will do it just fine, just takes longer to get there. I could easily speed at 100km/h through town in my 1.6L toyota corolla if I felt like, and I could probably in a 1.3L too. It's all to do with responsibility, not mechanical limitations. Although in some of those big, soft, powerful automatic cars people have you can do 160 and feel like you're going at 80 so..... Anyway, no, wouldn't work. Just means you'd have to thrash it harder to be equally irresponsable. You're probably right. Down the road in Hamilton, about a year or so ago, there was a kid killed in the back of a car. about 6 people were crammed in the car - which was a crappy old holden barina clocked doing 120 in a 50 zone. There was a good letter in herald today on this subject. A guy from Switzerland wrote in and said cars for young drivers have compulsory speed limiters. Offenders who fiddle the speed limiting and get caught, get their car crushed into a cube and returned to them. The minimum driving age there is 18 I believe. |
manicminer (4219) | ||
| 377919 | 2005-08-03 10:33:00 | one problem compulusy insurance has is the insurance companies get rich. ie there is no competion and they can set any rate they like. however the govermnet couldbuild it into the rego. i think some some states in auzzie do that. there are actually a lot of sub 1500cc cars out there if you look in between all the 4x4's ;) |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 377920 | 2005-08-03 10:33:00 | Insurence doesn't save lives,any car can be driven fast, One of my first cars was an XD falcon that cost $800, she topped out at 210km/h, A few years ago I took an $80 000 HSV Senator for a spin,she topped out at 220km/h . Crash in either at that speed and your dead . And yeah, I probally shouldn't be on the road either . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Muhahahahahaha . |
Metla (12) | ||
| 377921 | 2005-08-03 11:04:00 | 3rd Party insurance won't do jack to stop these guys killing themselves . 1 . A lot of hoons drive cars that don't have warrants or regos . Do they care? They stack up the fines and don't pay them either . Compulsory insurance? What makes people think that will make a difference? Besides, theres no way of policing this when they're driving Daddy's Monaro CV8 which would be insured anyway . 2 . Restrictions on engine capacity: I've squeezed 178km/h out of my 1300cc Corolla . It cruises at 140km/h quite easily . Sure theres the cool factor of having a worked japper, but fact is, these guys can kill themselves in anything . 3 . Minimum ages on licences: again, another non-solution . I got my licence when I was 21, quite old for a Westie bloke . I still did insane things which I think back on and wonder why I'm still breathing . I don't do them now . Thats called growing up . Theres no solution to kids doing dumb things in cars, all we can do is take the cars off them when we catch them doing dumb things, take their licences off them when they do really dumb things, and lock them up for their troubles when they start getting out of hand . |
SmegEd (8440) | ||
| 377922 | 2005-08-03 11:13:00 | Restricting to 1500cc, That would push people in to byeing a rotary, only 1200cc and very capable of speeds 200km+ | G-Boy (6793) | ||
| 377923 | 2005-08-03 11:55:00 | I just wish they could hoon on their own designated roads, and then natural selection would take care of the problem. :rolleyes: |
gibler (49) | ||
| 377924 | 2005-08-03 12:03:00 | I just wish they could hoon on their own designated roads, and then natural selection would take care of the problem. :rolleyes: and in the words of george carlin..."put it on pay-per-veiw!" :D |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 377925 | 2005-08-03 12:04:00 | I tend to believe that comp . 3rd party insurance would be a fairly effective solution providing the government can limit/subsidise prices . I'm paying $500 or so for 3rd party fire+theft on my crappy '89 1300cc 'rolla and I refuse to pay any more . As far as I'm concerned, those kids got what was coming . Harsh but true . |
DangerousDave (697) | ||
| 377926 | 2005-08-03 12:09:00 | I say let them kill themselves as long as they don't harm me or my family, they obviously don't respect life that much.. Problem is its usually the good honest hard working citizen that ends up dying. :dogeye: :( | bob_doe_nz (92) | ||
| 377927 | 2005-08-03 21:56:00 | Last time one of these threads caught my attention was earlier this year . Someone i knew had just written herself off on Arthers Pass (South Island mountain road for those of you from overseas) It was the daughter of a former associate of mine . The car looked like it had been through a crusher plant . She was 17ish, and not the only one to die as a result of her driving full noise on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic while taking a wide bend badly . The point i'm making? Lets cut the sexist crap and take the word "boy" from racers . Girls can be and often are just as stupid . Point 2 . Its not so much young drivers but new drivers that cause a problem . I was terrible when i first learnt to drive in my mid 20s on the West Coast . It was the middle of nowhere, i lived up a narly hill road, and how i avoided ever falling of it as many did i do not know . I fully believe i would be a better driver now if i had started earlier . Point 3 . Size restrictions? Show me a 17y/old who owns a 6 litre V8 monstercar these days? And anyone dumb enough to floor it beyond thier capabilitys wont care about if mummys car is over some engine size limit . Also . . How the hell are we supposed to legally teach people to drive if they can't legaly drive common vehicles? My former associates daughter died driving like a mad ***** in someone elses car and took others down with her . Does anyone really believe any of these restrictions would have stopped her? She would have still driven illegally fast, with illegal passengers, on an illegal side of the road with or without engine size retrictions, compulsery 3rd party and all the rest . I was one of the people who taught her to drive . She was too cocky then and was determend to prove she could do anything . As it turned out, later "anything" included die tragicly on the open road . |
personthingy (1670) | ||
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