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Thread ID: 60756	2005-08-12 04:58:00	Say It Aint So! Linux Snobs?......Really?	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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380523	2005-08-13 21:47:00	Boy Joe you sure know how to pick a fight first you pick on kiwis (a little, Tell us a clocks are wrong :D ) Then OMG you post this subject . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Both forum mods are linux fans, Better check that flame suite mate . Its been nice knowing you :D I agree with chill If linux compares with win 3 . 1, then I submit Win 3 . 1 is long way ahead of itself and the current generation of windows is still trying to catch up . May the penguin forgive you, as we do (Here comes the "yeah, BUT! . . . . . . . ) Yeah, But! I got a little fire going didn't I? :blush: Actually, I read a lot of really good responses and have seen some of the errors of my ways . I however, have not decided to repair them yet . The jury is still out for me . Now, please . . . . . . . . . . . kind people . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . there never was any malace involved in the original post I made . I quite emphatically said I had not made my mind up one way or the other yet . . . . . . . . . . . . and, druthers being said here: I feel if Mac OS X gets packaged as a replacement for Windows on PC's (on a cd-rom) then Micro$oft's days are numbered . Did I run through a new minefield here? Besides: How can I be flamed by two succunctly different continents at the same time? I get in enough trouble in the US .	SurferJoe46 (51)
380524	2005-08-13 21:49:00	The average gamer wants to buy any game off the shelf, install and run it without hours of fiddling about. I agree. While you can see from Chill's list, you can get games, if you want the latest game off the shelf with a one click install, then running it on its native platform is the only way to go. Gaming under Linux is being developed more as this is the one area where the average homeowner/gamer is better off with Windows still. The Linux community realises this, but while the market is with Window users for gamers manufacturer's will not provide native Linux ports of their games. They have to see some return for their investment. There are some manufacturer's which do develop Linux ports of their Window games, and by buying those native games you are supporting that company which hopefully leads to more games being ported. While you can use emulators such as Cedega which have a one click install and then play (or just about), the range of fully supported games is still small compared with what games are available.	Jen (38)
380525	2005-08-13 22:07:00	I read your posts thoroughly. You obviously didn't read mine. One of the main points against Linux is GAMES. You know - those things that drive the hardware industry. No, all those "windows emulators" do not work properly. The average gamer wants to buy any game off the shelf, install and run it without hours of fiddling about. They generally want maximum performance too, and the few games that can be run in Linux do not give that at all. As I said, until that happens, its doomed to be for the technically minded, Linux fan club only. Even my friend, who loathes and detests Windows, esp XP, lives with it for that reason. Just as well there is more in life to just playing games, that's the last I want to do with my computer, and I suspect the majority of forum members here arn't big gamers, You are confusing the average gamer with the average computer user, they are not the same thing	plod (107)
380526	2005-08-13 22:30:00	Of course, what Pctek said about "I can apt-get install Halflife2 can I" was probably toungue-in-cheek, but turns out he's quite right. Like what Jen said, its a catch22.... Windows users wont move to linux because there's not enough games that are native... software writers wont port to linux because not enough people are moving to it.... There's just no winning :D	Chilling_Silence (9)
380527	2005-08-14 00:32:00	I read your posts thoroughly . You obviously didn't read mine . Sorry, but the only post on this thread that i haven't read thoroughly is Chills list of windows games that run on *nix . Up till then i more or less agreed with you that Linux was not the better OS for a gamer . Chills list was so overwelmingly long that i chose to scroll past it rather than read each title . Now i'm not so sure that that assumption windows is better for gaming is as true as i thought it was . I'm also back in my comfort zone - confused again :p I stress that i'm not a gamer . This is an area i have not dabbled in . I only go by what others who are tell me is possible . I run a laptop with onboard vid, and this reflects my lack of interest in these passtimes . Another thing we agree on is that its not allways as easy to install a windows program on a linux box as it is to install it on a windows box . I see this as an advantage . I offer this example: When I left the woman i bred with alone with Flaptop, she did one of those big no-no's and downloaded games of the net "for Ziggy (our son) to play" . She meant well, i think . She was stopped in her tracks by being logged in as guest, and by hitting the windows-on-linux wall . She asked me why she couldn't install these games she found for Ziggy . "Something was wrong with my computer . " I'm very glad that "something was wrong with my computer", as it saved me having some of the spyware/trojans etc that windows users so frequently get blessed with . She, like many, can't be told that not every gimmick on the net is welcome on other peoples machines . She, like many, didn't realise that i don't have windows at all and that Linux was something deeper than a program running on top of Windows . On Flaptop NOTHING gets in without my say so, others may use Flaptop freely and i don't have to stand over, watch, and play policeman to inforce policy .	personthingy (1670)
380528	2005-08-14 01:02:00	I should add that i recomend Linux for a family/shared computer as it's least likely to fill up with "fun" things like talking monkeys. :thumbs: And yes, i fully realise how games may cloud the issue......	personthingy (1670)
380529	2005-08-14 01:13:00	We all make choices and then we deal with the consequences of those choices. If the consequence of a OS choice is a lot a fiddling to get a game going then I suspect you enjoy that type of challange. Personallly I think that Microsoft products, Linux based products and other software products produced by other manufactures (inclusive of OS's), each serve a purpose to a group of computer users, otherwise the product would disappear.	beama (111)
380530	2005-08-14 01:22:00	(Here comes the "yeah, BUT!.......) ...............there never was any malace involved in the original post I made. I quite emphatically said I had not made my mind up one way or the other yet. I know Joe my first reply was just a tease ...........and, druthers being said here: I feel if Mac OS X gets packaged as a replacement for Windows on PC's (on a cd-rom) then Micro$oft's days are numbered. Did I run through a new minefield here? No but this might OSX is linux based I believe	beama (111)
380531	2005-08-14 01:36:00	Well said Beama! Totally agree!	Chilling_Silence (9)
380532	2005-08-14 10:49:00	Well I just bought a Mac for home (omg seriously). OS X is just great, sexy as all hell. I wanted something completely different to use at home, that wasn't quite as utilitarianly ugly as Linux often is (mostly because of the stacks of different widget and window building sets), and wasn't Windows, well because Windows likes the cack. The great thing about OSX, I can still run *nix apps in most cases, everything is pretty and well integrated, reliable as all hell, and when the pager goes off on the weekend I can still crack open a bash shell and have all the *nix I need right there. I use Linux fulltime on my machine at work, and have to poke a few Windows machines along there as well (and of course maintain the linux server farm). So something different at home is nice. My biggest bugbear about Linux is that sound blows. Graphics has finally got there, but sound is still pretty pants.	ninja (1671)
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