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Thread ID: 60686 2005-08-09 23:20:00 For woodworkers and roofers Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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380009 2005-08-10 02:58:00 Please note Beet this is not a drill.See what happens if you girls come out of kitchen.

But are these machines not multipurpose devices????

They can drive in a object just as well as drills....:p our cordless drills are used for both making holes and ensuring objects are correctly driving into the said hole...:p

"Cordless impact drivers work like a typical cordless drill" directly quoted from your link.....so if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck it must be a drill then??? :p

ha


"A cordless impact driver can easily function as a drill for holes" :p says right here Thomas....in your link ha!
men!

beetle
beetle (243)
380010 2005-08-10 02:58:00 Beet, sweety, they're picking on you, the nasty beastie boys. Murray P (44)
380011 2005-08-10 03:02:00 Yum yum. Those look like the business.


LOL
the latest is only a couple weeks old, came with 2 bats.....LOL

and i recall its red so it goes faster than yours...:p:

beetle

Snap.:thumbs: Same here, bought it last week. My son and I had lots of fun charging the batteries and running them down - which reminds me I haven't finished doing this yet.

And I'll have to disagree Terry. Having survived with one Skil drill for 20 years, and losing the plurry key again and again, I think keyless chucks are in sliced bread territory. :D
Winston001 (3612)
380012 2005-08-10 04:06:00 It goes back to the days when I was in the machine tool industry, and HIGH metal removal rates, both in high speed grinding and turning. The idea was to put all the heat into the chips and remove the metal so fast that the parent stock remained cool. None of this tickling of metal, ever tried a 13mm drill in a keyless chuck drilling into mild steel and leaning on the drill to produce some worthwhile sized chips? Nah, keyless chucks just can't hack it.

The only ones that really work are the centrifugal type as used on dental drills and high speed pcb drills.
Terry Porritt (14)
380013 2005-08-10 04:12:00 It goes back to the days when I was in the machine tool industry, and HIGH metal removal rates, both in high speed grinding and turning. The idea was to put all the heat into the chips and remove the metal so fast that the parent stock remained cool. None of this tickling of metal, ever tried a 13mm drill in a keyless chuck drilling into mild steel and leaning on the drill to produce some worthwhile sized chips? Nah, keyless chucks just can't hack it.

The only ones that really work are the centrifugal type as used on dental drills and high speed pcb drills.
Can we assume Terry that you still do a lot of 13mm drilling,I think not. :)
Cicero (40)
380014 2005-08-10 04:28:00 Verb: slabber

Let saliva drivel from the mouth.

Thought you'd like that coming from me Cic :p
Must say M,slabber is a word I am not familiar with,now slobber......... :)
Cicero (40)
380015 2005-08-10 04:30:00 I drill 13 mm holes every day :). In the olden days I would have used Morse Taper Shank drills. Terry Porritt (14)
380016 2005-08-10 04:32:00 Please note Beet this is not a drill . See what happens if you girls come out of kitchen .

But are these machines not multipurpose devices????

They can drive in a object just as well as drills . . . . :p our cordless drills are used for both making holes and ensuring objects are correctly driving into the said hole . . . :p

"Cordless impact drivers work like a typical cordless drill" directly quoted from your link . . . . . so if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck it must be a drill then??? :p

ha


"A cordless impact driver can easily function as a drill for holes" :p says right here Thomas . . . . in your link ha!
men!

beetle
You can indeed use for both drilling and driving,but having 135 nm of torque,they lend themselves more to driving,my Ryobi doesn't have a chuck for drills,being a dedicated unit . :thumbs:
Cicero (40)
380017 2005-08-10 04:34:00 I drill 13 mm holes every day :). In the olden days I would have used Morse Taper Shank drills.
I used to use morse in the navy and even flags sometimes. ;)
Cicero (40)
380018 2005-08-10 04:49:00 I drill 13 mm holes every day :). In the olden days I would have used Morse Taper Shank drills.

You mean "half-inch", don't you, Terry? ;)

A keyless chuck is fine for a battery powered drill. Most of them can't give enough torque to do any serious work anyway. Screwriver bits have hex shanks, so they are no problem. And you CAN'T lose the bloody key.

I was sold on keyless chucks (on lathes, anyway) by their better centring. (When they were expensive, not like the ones on a typical cordless drill). A keyed chuck gets a sideways force on it when the key is used. The cocking over of the outer sleeve stops the jaws getting maximum grip. How many people do up keyed chucks correctly, working around all three positions, to minimize this effect?
Graham L (2)
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