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| Thread ID: 60545 | 2005-08-05 03:13:00 | Education.Uder control? | Cicero (40) | PC World Chat |
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| 378535 | 2005-08-05 13:30:00 | Sorry, that's not what I mean. Obviously there are lots of issues and problems, but in terms of reading the results, true they are a bit messy, but to say that they are impossible to understand is not a fair statement. I guess the point I am trying to make is that though people have problems with NCEA, they shouldn't doubt the quality of what students learn as someone suggested above. :) I hope you are right and if so, then that is good news. However I can tell you that the command and accurate use of basic english - reading and writing - used to be assumed a basic result of education. Today we have universities running special courses to teach these basics because students arrive unable to write and spell. Apart from that, NCEA results need to be easily understood by parents and employers. Students and teachers may find them comprehensive and accurate, but if they confuse people outside school - then the poor unsuspecting student has a problem. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 378536 | 2005-08-05 22:01:00 | Now Tom, I'm no fan of Aunty Helen, Uncle Michael or bully boy Cousin Trevor. Nevertheless I need to point out that it was the National Government in the mid 90s which introduced this brave new system. Labour however do seem to have embraced it. Nevertheless I'm going to have to give you three strokes - for your own good - just to remind you to be more accurate. :D Looking forward to the srokes :) . No one says that National has not made mistakes,they are politicians after all. With luck they have seen the error of their ways,and are not in denial mode as Labour seem to be. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 378537 | 2005-08-05 22:56:00 | Well all I can say is that when a thread about education title mis-spells 'under' in the title, we're in trouble. | Jester (13) | ||
| 378538 | 2005-08-06 00:04:00 | Well all I can say is that when a thread about education title mis-spells 'under' in the title, we're in trouble. No. it's not misspelt, it's Cic has a 'code in de nose' :) |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 378539 | 2005-08-06 00:10:00 | Getting education uder control is not to be confused with educating udder control :D |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 378540 | 2005-08-06 00:22:00 | It's quite interesting really how education goes through cycles and variations. If we go back to the late 1800s and early 1900s, then higher education was infinitely higher than anything today, or probably at any other time in history. Scientists were wholly educated people, in the classics, Latin, Greek, European language, maths, as well as 'Natural Philosophy'. They had to be able to write their scientific papers in Latin, and if they couldn't speak a colleagues' language, then they conversed in Latin. Here is a picture of some the Scientific Giants of the day at the 1927 Solvay Conference: facpub.stjohns.edu At the other end of the scale, my Grandma born in the 1870s just went to one of the early Victorian elementary schools set up around that time for the masses, and she left at the age of 13. Yet she had English skills of a high order, read widely, and had good arithmetic capability. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 378541 | 2005-08-06 00:34:00 | Please know the difference between spelling and typo :groan: "At the other end of the scale, my Grandma born in the 1870s just went to one of the early Victorian elementary schools set up around that time for the masses, and she left at the age of 13. Yet she had English skills of a high order, read widely, and had good arithmetic capability." You can bet they stuck to the knitting.Which I think is the secret. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 378542 | 2005-08-06 08:36:00 | Please know the difference between spelling and typo :groan: dictionary.reference.com :confused: please explain... |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 378543 | 2005-08-06 13:08:00 | dictionary.reference.com :confused: please explain... You have to be joking,but just case we have a right one here. A typo is where one leaves out a letter by mistake,knowing how it is spelt. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 378544 | 2005-08-06 13:54:00 | It's quite interesting really how education goes through cycles and variations. If we go back to the late 1800s and early 1900s, then higher education was infinitely higher than anything today, or probably at any other time in history. There are reasons as to why that period is significant in the discoveries and the progress that were made, but higher education being infinitely higher than today is not the reason. It is not even true. Scientists were wholly educated people, in the classics, Latin, Greek, European language, maths, as well as 'Natural Philosophy'. They had to be able to write their scientific papers in Latin, and if they couldn't speak a colleagues' language, then they conversed in Latin. Latin and Greek (and latterly German) is no longer used in science for the same reason that French is no longer used as the language of diplomacy - they have been replaced by English. Even now, large science publishers have armies of translators that obviate the need for any scientist to speak a "lingua franca", even English. |
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