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664578	2008-05-01 03:22:00	Gosh I am having problems so I have started a new thread. Trying to help my granddaughter to use MSWorks. I have used it for years and love it. But found it wise to stop at v4.5 Later versions have ended up in my dump bin. But trying to use v9.0 has driven me daft. I want to enter the date using hot keys - I cannot find any way. In a database I want to be able to copy the contents of the directly above cell using hot keys. I want the program to have all the various databases etc I was using when I shut down come up again automatically. Trying google has got me nowhere except more comment that from v4.5 the program has worsened. I tried Microsoft NZ and their helpful chappy was unable to find any way of doing what I want after version 4.5 and expressed surprise. There must be lots of people out there using MSWorks and surely they do not enter everything manually when I can do it automatically. Comments please. Tom	Thomas01 (317)
664579	2008-05-01 03:28:00	Does Ctrl+C = Copy and Ctrl+V = Paste not work?	Bantu (52)
664580	2008-05-01 05:14:00	Does Ctrl+C = Copy and Ctrl+V = Paste not work? I didn't try this but I would think so - thats a Windows thing rather than MSWorks. And of course a very clumsy way of copying anything in the cell above - plus the fact it does not help with the date. Just repeating - my version puts the date on by typing Ctrl/; and copies the cell above into the cell being used by Ctrl/' Tom	Thomas01 (317)
664581	2008-05-01 07:26:00	I have Works Ver 8 only as some people insist on sending me attachments in .wdb from time to time. You can not configure hotkeys for works 8 as far as I can see. I started with Works Ver 1 BTW. I used Works 4.5 and about four years ago I helped with SeniorNet. This organisation used Works 4.5. I admire you for trying to pass on information to your Granddaughter. This sort of activity should be encouraged. Now for a few questions:- 1:- How old is the grand daughter? Relevant only as to literacy and computer learning that could be expected from a person of the age specified if you want to say this. 2:- Does the child have a computer at home with Works 9? If so will this computer run Works 4.5 on the operating system? 3:- Would it be better to teach the child to investigate other alternatives like Office, Linux, Open source and dare I say it even Macs. Note that I am not trying to offend here. On Works 8 I can use Menu view and fill down to copy cell(s) above. You might look at fill series when it comes to dates. I hope this helps!	Sweep (90)
664582	2008-05-01 10:03:00	Gosh I am having problems so I have started a new thread. Trying to help my granddaughter to use MSWorks. You would be doing your granddaughter a greater favour by teaching her OpenOffice if you don't want to spend the money on MSOffice as there would be very few businesses that even have Works on their PC's let alone use it.	mikebartnz (21)
664583	2008-05-01 10:11:00	It's amazing how robust 4.5 is. I run Vista Home Premium and Office 2007, but I still have Works 4.5 running sweet as and use it regularly to open a small database a club secretary sends once a month. I haven't written anything with it for a couple of years but just tried it after reading this post and it created and saved a document as simply as it ever did. :rolleyes:	Scouse (83)
664584	2008-05-01 22:44:00	I have Works Ver 8 only as some people insist on sending me attachments in .wdb from time to time. You can not configure hotkeys for works 8 as far as I can see. I started with Works Ver 1 BTW. I used Works 4.5 and about four years ago I helped with SeniorNet. This organisation used Works 4.5. I admire you for trying to pass on information to your Granddaughter. This sort of activity should be encouraged. Now for a few questions:- 1:- How old is the grand daughter? Relevant only as to literacy and computer learning that could be expected from a person of the age specified if you want to say this. 2:- Does the child have a computer at home with Works 9? If so will this computer run Works 4.5 on the operating system? 3:- Would it be better to teach the child to investigate other alternatives like Office, Linux, Open source and dare I say it even Macs. Note that I am not trying to offend here. On Works 8 I can use Menu view and fill down to copy cell(s) above. You might look at fill series when it comes to dates. I hope this helps! Well it cheered me up if nothing else. You see my granddaughter is not a child but a fully qualified adult somewhere in her early 20s. You contribution took me back to the time when she was a child - and a lovely one at that. She missed out on computers at school - they came in too late for her and the only computer she has used is one I picked up for $5 from a student returning to China after his university life. Trying to understand the Chinese before I was able to convert it to English was great fun. Now she has got a modern unit and it runs Vista (I would have advised her to try to get XP) I don't know if Vista runs MSWorks v4.5 but I will give her a copy - it is obviously the best way to go. I believe there is a program that can be downloaded to enable Vista to run even DOS programs. I still use a few of those! I have tried Open Office - have umpteen versions of it. But don't like it. Particularly the database which is more like the dreadful device in OFFICE. I find databases are probably the most useful devices I have - use lots and lots of them. If I need a new one then I use MSWorks and if I spend more than 5 minutes designing them then I am doing something wrong. Try that in OFFICE - OK so MSWorks can only use flat file databases. I rarely need anything else although I did use the occasional "LOOK UP FIELD" in the DOS days - I have forgotten what the program was but it was pretty darn good. I'm just glad I still have v4.5 bless it! Tom	Thomas01 (317)
664585	2008-05-02 00:05:00	I don't know if Vista runs MSWorks v4.5 but I will give her a copy Thomas - see here in my Vista Home Premium...... www.imagef1.net.nz	Scouse (83)
664586	2008-05-02 09:04:00	Well it cheered me up if nothing else. You see my granddaughter is not a child but a fully qualified adult somewhere in her early 20s. You contribution took me back to the time when she was a child - and a lovely one at that. She missed out on computers at school - they came in too late for her and the only computer she has used is one I picked up for $5 from a student returning to China after his university life. Trying to understand the Chinese before I was able to convert it to English was great fun. Now she has got a modern unit and it runs Vista (I would have advised her to try to get XP) I don't know if Vista runs MSWorks v4.5 but I will give her a copy - it is obviously the best way to go. I believe there is a program that can be downloaded to enable Vista to run even DOS programs. I still use a few of those! I have tried Open Office - have umpteen versions of it. But don't like it. Particularly the database which is more like the dreadful device in OFFICE. I find databases are probably the most useful devices I have - use lots and lots of them. If I need a new one then I use MSWorks and if I spend more than 5 minutes designing them then I am doing something wrong. Try that in OFFICE - OK so MSWorks can only use flat file databases. I rarely need anything else although I did use the occasional "LOOK UP FIELD" in the DOS days - I have forgotten what the program was but it was pretty darn good. I'm just glad I still have v4.5 bless it! Tom OK. Thanks for your reply. Works is a flat file Database and is used by many people and is useful. But as you have noted you can not do certain things like hotkeys in works 9. I have Office 2007 running under Vista Ultimate and do not use Access as such very often. I have designed my own Database using Access for my own reasons. I admit it is very quick and easy to do a database in Works. Now what does the Adult actually need?	Sweep (90)
664587	2008-05-03 00:31:00	OK. Thanks for your reply. Works is a flat file Database and is used by many people and is useful. But as you have noted you can not do certain things like hotkeys in works 9. I have Office 2007 running under Vista Ultimate and do not use Access as such very often. I have designed my own Database using Access for my own reasons. I admit it is very quick and easy to do a database in Works. Now what does the Adult actually need? Basically I think she wants to be able to keep track of her expenses - I wrote a spreadsheet & database for her some considerable time ago (in MSWorks of course) and also she will probably do what I do and keep a daily log of things she does etc. I again use MSWorks for mine and find that even though it now has nearly 7000 entries, finding especially simple entries like finding our cats entries by name takes fractions of a second. I also use a "Drawers" database so that I can find almost anything I want - particularly things I haven't used for years. Funny enough when I first started using a computer to record things I also started an INVENTORY database which has been very useful. It used in those days a DOS program and I had to call it Inventry because of the 8:3 restriction. My inventory file is still called INVENTRY. I have in fact databases for just about everything. My granddaughter is almost certainly going to use MSWorks 4.5 I do appreciate your interest. Tom	Thomas01 (317)
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