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| Thread ID: 60840 | 2005-08-14 23:44:00 | Who are you gonna vote for?? (Govt Election) | rmcb (164) | PC World Chat |
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| 381291 | 2005-08-22 10:55:00 | Tax policy will be out now. Where do I find it. I'm out of money till Thursday to buy a newspaper.... | george12 (7) | ||
| 381292 | 2005-08-22 10:58:00 | Where do I find it www.national.org.nz |
maccrazy (6741) | ||
| 381293 | 2005-08-22 11:18:00 | Thanks very much. With labour, my parents will get $96 a week on my 16th birthday from working for families, instead of nothing - that's pretty much bribery in my books, because I agree with pretty much nothing else Helen wants to do (except the "vote-bids").... Basicly she's tempting families, because $96 a week is a LOT of extra money - we could double our mortgage payments with that, or save up for a new car (much needed). But I hate the NCEA system very, very strongly and National wants to severely modify it in ways I agree with. All in all its about balancing policies with cash for our family.... |
george12 (7) | ||
| 381294 | 2005-08-22 20:04:00 | On TV3 some talking head said that the National tax policy is like being bribed with your own money . Surely people wouldn't vote purely on the amount of money they would be getting under a government . What is given to you must be taken from elsewhere, and Nationals plan to cut other services to give money away as a bribe merely means that some other person doesn't get an operation, education, road, help, etc . Its the ultimate in the politics of selfishness . |
netchicken (4843) | ||
| 381295 | 2005-08-23 00:09:00 | Surely people wouldn't vote purely on the amount of money they would be getting under a government . . Sadly some people would . :groan: What is given to you must be taken from elsewhere, and Nationals plan to cut other services to give money away as a bribe merely means that some other person doesn't get an operation, education, road, help, etc . Its the ultimate in the politics of selfishness . That's not really true . First, there is currently a surplus, which means the government has collected more taxes than it needs to . Second, reallocation of funding means that the education and health sectors etc may in fact recieve more funding than they are at the moment . In the end it comes down to: 1) Whether you want to pay more tax and have the government decide where the surplus goes; or 2) Pay less and use the savings as you wish to instead of having someone decide for you . :) |
bob05 (8721) | ||
| 381296 | 2005-08-23 00:23:00 | That's not really true . First, there is currently a surplus, which means the government has collected more taxes than it needs to . Correct . What makes this worse is the fact the Labour has hoarded this money and used it to offer these election bribes as opposed to pumping that money into the health sector or other much needed places . If this is the case, how many people have died on waiting lists that could have been saved . All because Labour needed the money to get back into Government . In saying that, after watching Don Brash get torn a new ring-piece in lasts nites debate it's not looking hopeful that this will change . |
Veale (536) | ||
| 381297 | 2005-08-24 02:53:00 | Good article on capitalism. www.nzherald.co.nz |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 381298 | 2005-08-24 12:19:00 | On TV3 some talking head said that the National tax policy is like being bribed with your own money . Surely people wouldn't vote purely on the amount of money they would be getting under a government . What is given to you must be taken from elsewhere, and Nationals plan to cut other services to give money away as a bribe merely means that some other person doesn't get an operation, education, road, help, etc . Its the ultimate in the politics of selfishness . I was under the impression that the surplus was paying for the tax cuts . . . . |
george12 (7) | ||
| 381299 | 2005-08-24 12:23:00 | Correct . What makes this worse is the fact the Labour has hoarded this money and used it to offer these election bribes as opposed to pumping that money into the health sector or other much needed places . If this is the case, how many people have died on waiting lists that could have been saved . All because Labour needed the money to get back into Government . In saying that, after watching Don Brash get torn a new ring-piece in lasts nites debate it's not looking hopeful that this will change . They're not using the "hoardings", they're using the annual surplus . IE using "income" (term used loosly) not savings . The surplus saved was for if the annual surplus declined to a defecit (kind of like the importance of saving a buffer if you have a variable income) . |
george12 (7) | ||
| 381300 | 2005-08-24 19:29:00 | A surplus is just unallocated income . It could be used for any social needs that are out there . I would give my vote to somone who didn't give tax breaks but used the surplus to cut out govt tax on petrol . Or lowered the price of electricity . Or used it to make a nice big Nucleur power plant in downtown Auckland . There are heaps of ways a surplus could be allocatde to help everyone and build a better society rather than just leave it in peoples pockets . I was under the impression that the surplus was paying for the tax cuts . . . . |
netchicken (4843) | ||
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