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Thread ID: 61105 2005-08-24 23:05:00 A Joke, surely? B.M. (505) PC World Chat
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383571 2005-08-25 20:08:00 Your arguments logic lessens due to the overuse of the words "sicko" and "twisted" in this thread. Me thinks you're just a bunch of insecure trannyphobes. And probably homophobes too, am I right? pixeldust (6619)
383572 2005-08-25 21:06:00 Go National.

After Don's Orewa speech I decided to vote National. I have been sick of Labour's PC. But now I am going back to Labour. Two of many points:

1. Brash is a self-professed Christian. Think Bush. Think Brash. Yeee God !

2. Brash has his own form of PC, e.g. the debate with Helen - not wanting to speak harshly to a woman. Pathetic.
Strommer (42)
383573 2005-08-25 22:28:00 After Don's Orewa speech I decided to vote National. I have been sick of Labour's PC. But now I am going back to Labour. Two of many points:

1. Brash is a self-professed Christian. Think Bush. Think Brash. Yeee God !

2. Brash has his own form of PC, e.g. the debate with Helen - not wanting to speak harshly to a woman. Pathetic.
I am an atheist,but I have no problem with true Christian values.
I also believe respecting women is no bad thing,granted it,s hard to fit Helen into that catergory.
Cicero (40)
383574 2005-08-26 00:50:00 I am an atheist,but I have no problem with true Christian values.
I also believe respecting women is no bad thing,granted it,s hard to fit Helen into that catergory.

The problem is that very few Christians practice "true Christian values".

Yes, respecting women (even in old fashioned ways) is not such a bad thing but as a potential PM his comment was an excuse for doing a bad job in the debate, and he should have known it would not be acceptable by most people (voters).

As far as being "hard to fit Helen into that category"... you have a point here! :lol: :thumbs:
Strommer (42)
383575 2005-08-26 02:16:00 Ooooh pixeldust you are touchy . Are you concerned your operation won’t go ahead? :confused:

Now just for the record you may care to point us toward the extravagant use of the words “Sicko” and “Twisted” . By my calculation you just doubled the usage by complaining . :lol:

Also, you may care to explain just what an “insecure trannyphobe” is? It conjures up visions of a clown with a walkman hanging off the spouting of a ten story building . :D
B.M. (505)
383576 2005-08-26 02:52:00 Oh, no! He has good manners. Let's vote in the raving lunatic again. :p

Seriously though, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Regardless of whether it is a women or a man, it is rude to yell over the top of other people.


I am an atheist,but I have no problem with true Christian values.

Provided it doesn't get in the way of their job, then I see no problem with it. Nothing I have seen him do has had any religious tone to it so far, so I've got no problem with him being the PM. :)
bob05 (8721)
383577 2005-08-26 03:10:00 I would agree, Unless he is declaring himself Bishop of his own church, Telling us we are all sinners, that only he knows which family values are going to keep us out of hell and that the path to redemption is via cash donations then his own beliefs are his own business. Metla (12)
383578 2005-08-26 03:41:00 Provided it doesn't get in the way of their job, then I see no problem with it. Nothing I have seen him do has had any religious tone to it so far, so I've got no problem with him being the PM. Well it *sounded* like it got in the way of his job already, hence the excuses afterwards. Should he ever have to talk to other heads of states that are female what happens then?
Sorry we caved and implemented the DCMA in NZ, but the states sent Condoleeza Rice to negotiate, and I felt it was impolite to say no.Not really what I am looking for in the person representing NZ.

-Qyiet
qyiet (6730)
383579 2005-08-26 04:19:00 Well it *sounded* like it got in the way of his job already, hence the excuses afterwards. Should he ever have to talk to other heads of states that are female what happens then?Not really what I am looking for in the person representing NZ.

-QyietHe didn't have to be rude and he wasnt,that is not to say he couldn't be if he had to be,for goodness sake.
Cicero (40)
383580 2005-08-26 04:36:00 He didn't have to be rude and he wasnt,that is not to say he couldn't be if he had to be,for goodness sake . So when will he have to be Cicero? What is more important to Don Brash than winning this election that will force him to?

Mr Brash himself said that if his oponent had been a man his style would have been different, so he felt that Helen Clarks gender had adversly affeced his performance . If he is unable to put gender differences asside for the thing he holds most important, do you think he will for things that you hold most important?

-Qyiet
qyiet (6730)
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