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| Thread ID: 61003 | 2005-08-21 06:17:00 | Attention System Administrators - Innovation of Categories Idea | CreightonBrown (5692) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 382766 | 2005-08-22 05:06:00 | No . No more categories (forums) are needed . If people make reasonable Subject lines, there's no problem . You yourself have just pointed out the very problem . But even if people do label them properly, you still have to read the subject line, or maybe even the originating post, to find out exactly what the post is about . And with people not being specific and brief in their post heading, what do you expect - this is a help forum after all . Linux/BSD questions aren't lost . I can find them in the present system . Jen can find them . Chilling can find them . vinref can find them . If we can find them, they can't be buried . :D You have to wade through the Windows stuff (virus, trojans, adware, spyware ad infinitum . . . ) . And I do not think that you, me, Jen, Chill, plod, Safari, Tazz, jcr1 and Sue (just to name a few off the top of my head) are the only ones interested in Linux/*BSD/Mac - there must be lots of others who would benefit from a category where every post (hopefully) is about Linux/*BSD/Mac . |
vinref (6194) | ||
| 382767 | 2005-08-22 05:18:00 | Of couse the answer to the clueless newbies point is to have a forum on the board entitled "Post your question here if you don't know where else", or similar . Then the mods can move it to the appropriate forum . Guess what after some months of having subforums, when the 100th person writes in "My manual says hit the ANY key, but I don't have one" you can then just link them to the thread stored in the appropriate forum and visited by "Any key" enthusiasts . Still no change is better than any change if change is to be feared . |
netchicken (4843) | ||
| 382768 | 2005-08-22 05:35:00 | " . . . you still have to read the subject line, or maybe even the originating post to find out exactly . . . " :groan: Whatever the organisation of the forums, there's no way around that . Sorry . Even Godfather and I, with our great powers of ESP, have to read the originating posts . I know it's a Help forum . My remark was an indication of the fact that I am realistic in my expectations . ;) There aren't enough postings each day to make it worthwhile to add more forums . Any active thread wil be in the first 20 or so . What is the problem? I can scan through the headings quicker than I can change forums . I'm not so bigoted that I will answer nothing but Linux questions . Change for the sake of change is wasted time . You don't solve problems by adding complexity . More forums means more choices . More choices cause more wrong choices . If a posting is in the wrong forum (how many was CB suggesting) the time before it's answered will increase . And this would sentence the moderators to read every posting in every forum . Do they really deserve such cruel and unusual punishment? There's a very good rule which applies to computer forums as well as to many other things and activities . "Leave well alone" . Most of the the problems people have with computers stem from their attempts to "fix" things which aren't broken . Many of the rest come from "improvements", whether committed by software manufacturers or users . |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 382769 | 2005-08-22 05:36:00 | I think the present system is ideal. I know I learn a lot just by browsing through the posts. I wonder what Creighton Brown is doing in here anyway if he's so clever. |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 382770 | 2005-08-22 07:38:00 | I think the current system is excellent, and agree with Graham L - all the active posts are in the top 20 everyday, why split them? And it's a help forum not a fan base, so vision for it to be such a thing is not required. | george12 (7) | ||
| 382771 | 2005-08-22 08:10:00 | If it aint broke, dont fix it | bob_doe_nz (92) | ||
| 382772 | 2005-08-22 08:15:00 | I think you just need to look at the number of people who thank contributors for help (quite a few), compared to people who complain about the system not working (none that I've ever noticed). | Greg (193) | ||
| 382773 | 2005-08-22 08:16:00 | Theres a FAQ on getting the best help out of PressF1 We're here to help people help themselves most of the time, not hand answers on a silver platter. There's not always just one right answer anyways.... If they cant title a heading appropriately (As many cant) their loss. If they used common sense, you would see that its better to label a thread subject: Printer Error 1234: Cannot connect to printer Than: URGENT HELP ME MY PRINTER BROKE Ive had to move my own posts once or twice, Creighton takes the cake for having the most number of threads have to move forums.... Yet he wants to add more forusm!? I dont just stick to Linux related questions, nor network-related questions (I try to major in them), but if we had a "linux" forum, I'd still answer/post in all threads and then go browsing in the rest anyways. Those who know the answers always manage to find those with a question around this place anyways. What major gains would be had by adding more forums, really?! |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 382774 | 2005-08-22 08:28:00 | I think we need at least two more categories: Linux/*BSD/Mac (OS's, applications, news), and Web (design, hosting, help and news). These two topics are forever buried in PF1, which is mostly a Windows help forum.No further divisions........... I rememember about 3+ years ago there was a post from a mac user about how email could no longer be accessed through pop.eudoramail.com I thought this aint right, and set up a new eudoramail account, and accessed it via e mail clients running on my Windows box, and my Linux box, thus proving that the problem was at the original posters end, not eudoramail.coms I worked with the original poster over 2 or more days to sort his problem out. Now had the forum been divided into mac/doze/*nix or worse still further categories I'd never have seen the post. Indeed we'd all be in danger of only seeing the areas we allready know about rather than learning the unexpected. I like the current system. Computer issues, and socail/chat. It's simple and tidy, but even with just 2 categories, the grey areas sometimes emerge and things seem to be in the wrong place. |
personthingy (1670) | ||
| 382775 | 2005-08-22 08:29:00 | Quite frankly, if we had a Linux forum with all the problem threads concentrated in one easy to find area, I think it would soon sink the readers into a deep depression and I doubt many people would be tempted to try Linux. :D As with all computer issues, you only get to see the bad stuff and rarely the good/successful news. It is better spacing them out amongst the other topics ;) |
Jen (38) | ||
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