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Thread ID: 61184	2005-08-27 07:53:00	The NZ Goverment has no idea at all	nzdating (8756)	PC World Chat

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384097	2005-08-27 07:53:00	What is this govt doing, i just cant believe this new zealand goverment. mabie its time we the public passed a law. A new law that the public can give govt officals a swift kick up the ass everytime they do something stuiped. This may end up being a very hot thread as for what im about to say may get a few people quite mad. Now i dont really care about the politics of things but here is a very interesting subject The Forshore and the billion dollar unknown asset that kiwis know nothing about which some people are trying to get there greedy little hands on Why arre govt bodys or other parties trying to claim the fore shores of new zealand, im aboput to tell you why a few people are up in arms about ownership you see there is a certain type of seaweed that grows in new zealand and there is just tones and tones of it all over our coast lines i know as i reasearched this and tryed setting up a business to havest the stuff but kept getting closed down unless i agreed to hand over 60% of the company to these interested parties. heres the figures $$$$$$$$$$$$ there is over 100 billion dollars of unknown money sitting there to be claimed on our foreshores What is it????? Its is in its maufactured state "AGAR" when tested it is rated as the highest yealding agar in the world good old new zealand for those who need a update Agar is used in womans cosmetics stablizers in foods and most importantly its used in the medical industry remember growing cultures in science thats agar Countrys are screaming out for this stuff it took me years to find out how to purley manufacture the stuff and wow talk about the health bonus from eating it as a drink you could make billions from selling it as a pure drink if you like jelly you would would love the drink i make from this stuff anyway if the forshores go into private hands or whoever has the ownership will have all this money sitting there ready for the scoop Advancement of agar is a product called agar rose.. add 3 compound cemicals to this and (wait for it ) this will blow your mind........... add these 3 things and you create a solid which is harder than rock and lighter than air. yes i solid that is harder than rock but it will float only thing it desovles at 30 Degress so as you see this little subject gets quite interesting when we start going into detail about new zealands forshore And as for the govt well creativity in new zealand is just pushed back into its corner i see every month great kiwis with great inventions, products and ideas all which will never get to the world then regarding other concepts that would help exporting companies in new zealand increase trade and development. these get refered to so called experts for evaluation ,mmm what if you are the expert in your feild like i am within my own feild i had jim anderton say to me "your system wouldnt work" well jim i say it would work a million times more than some of his stuoied policys i think its about time we had a new party stand for govt one that is new and for the development of fresh ideas and instead of creating more dept by doing and buying more rubbish sort out whats needed use the people and skills we have here im sure if every new zealander had to give up $5 a month not tax not interest but freely give up $5 a month thats would create 36 million dollars the people of new zealand would have after one year to put towards a publicly voted new zealand project for the future of new zealanders - we would all vote on what its to be used for.. some of the items that are done and paid for by the govt are just amazing mmm how about the ministry of healhs website 1 million dollars to build and it doesnt even work right it needs a total over hall... none of the govt departments in the MOH can share information correctly 1 million dollars built a peice of crap hell i could have built a new global search engine for that price hell 1 million dollars would buy a team of developers and graphic designers and programmers and run a company for 3 years if i had the contract you know why as there are programmers developers all out there without jobs think of the development and creative team having 1 million dollars anyway this has given the readers a few things to think about and any govt members - sort ya **** out huh sort out that sea weed mabie that could bring the new zealand dept ddown and decrease taxes or go to some other great topic im sure it would create a lot of jobs too	nzdating (8756)
384098	2005-08-27 08:12:00	Very deep . And easy to say . Maybe Jim Anderton is right? :waughh: I know for a fact that there has been a seaweed industry in Bluff Harbour for 15 years . Exporting to Asia . Ultimately it failed but they had a go . So what you propose isn't impossible . :thumbs:	Winston001 (3612)
384099	2005-08-27 08:19:00	Very deep . And easy to say . Maybe Jim Anderton is right? :waughh: I know for a fact that there has been a seaweed industry in Bluff Harbour for 15 years . Exporting to Asia . Ultimately it failed but they had a go . So what you propose isn't impossible . :thumbs: correct there is only one company in new zealand manufacturing currently and they are in auckland and they only manufacture on a small scale what amazes me is the councils say "ohhh we have a seaweed problem"" this is true in some aspects as some seaweeds causes a real issue . . but hey seaweed is money . . that problem stuff is great for growing tomartos :) re jim . . . lol	nzdating (8756)
384100	2005-08-27 08:22:00	Interesting. In never knew about seaweed process you outlined. I guess that is one of the reasons the foreshore needs to remain under government control though, otherwise we may end up with a big company destroying the beaches to get it before everyone else does. im sure if every new zealander had to give up $5 a month not tax not interest but freely give up $5 a month thats would create 36 million dollars the people of new zealand would have after one year to put towards a publicly voted new zealand project for the future of new zealanders - we would all vote on what its to be used for.. Interesting idea. I think you would have difficulty getting everyone to donate $5 for a project unless they knew exactly how it worked. I can see a process like this would be very complicated...	bob05 (8721)
384101	2005-08-27 09:53:00	Interesting . In never knew about seaweed process you outlined . I guess that is one of the reasons the foreshore needs to remain under government control though, otherwise we may end up with a big company destroying the beaches to get it before everyone else does . Interesting idea . I think you would have difficulty getting everyone to donate $5 for a project unless they knew exactly how it worked . I can see a process like this would be very complicated . . . It would be like lotto but be limited to 5 dollars this would create enough to payout a major prize and help people get funded to start up businesses or do do courses so they could better themselfs and move off the dole . i think its a great idea as its the new zealand people helping the new zealand people it would also create jobs with these new start up companies	nzdating (8756)
384102	2005-08-27 10:26:00	the councils say "ohhh we have a seaweed problem"" this is true in some aspects as some seaweeds causes a real issue.. An interesting read. Don't read too much into inefficient bureaucracy, personally I doubt there is a conspiracy (although I could be wrong). Here you go : approach the local council(s) with an offer to clear the 'problem' seaweed and you will do it for $1 per tonne. You'll end up like that guy who had a council contract to fill in the great hole he made by quarrying an Auckland volcano. Anyway, if they won't pay you $1 / tonne, offer to clear it away for free as a volunteer to help preserve the marine environment (provided they supply truck to move the seaweed to your premises). A	andrew93 (249)
384103	2005-08-27 14:01:00	Are you sure this seaweed only grows around the NZ coastline and nowhere else? Not Tasmania, the Pacific Islands, South America? If so, go there and make your fortune. Waiting for the government to do something about it is like waiting for the second coming.	vinref (6194)
384104	2005-08-28 02:46:00	In the early 1970s, there was a new law which enabled just this sort of operation . I have an idea it was called the Marine Farming Act, or something like that . It allowed a company to apply for rights to an area of shore . After a licence was issued, there was a requirement for a certain amount of activity . . . such as putting up a building . A workmate of mine had the bright idea that this would let him have a bach on the shore, with the right to keep other people off "his" area . Agar extraction was one of the "industries" explicitly envisaged . Obviously, if there is only one small company doing this now, agar can't have been a huge money spinner . Processed seaweed has been marketed as a miracle fertiliser from time to time . (There are a number of seaweeds . . . it's interesting that they are called "weeds", since they have various ecological niches . Perhaps the sea life could regard humans as landweeds . )	Graham L (2)
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