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| Thread ID: 61488 | 2005-09-06 10:51:00 | MMP,understading it. | Cicero (40) | PC World Chat |
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| 386431 | 2005-09-06 10:51:00 | To be honest I dont understand MMP,would somebody please explain in detail. Ta. For example I want ACT to get in but not likely,so that leaves National. So would I vote ACT party and constituant national so as to cover myself.? |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 386432 | 2005-09-06 10:57:00 | some info here: www.union.org.nz Basically, if you want Act to get in, you need to either give them the party vote, or give Rodney Hide the electrate vote in Epsom (if you live there). |
somebody (208) | ||
| 386433 | 2005-09-06 10:58:00 | Yes. | Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 386434 | 2005-09-06 11:01:00 | This coming from the guy who gave us a 1000 word detailed break down on the fundementals of Anarchy? Hmmmmm......A cunning plan to get others to explain something you want others to understand without writing it all up yourself? |
Metla (12) | ||
| 386435 | 2005-09-06 11:14:00 | MMP is not a simple system but easier than STV - which is better but far more complex . STV was used for the health board elections with the consequence that it took 6 weeks for the final results . Nevertheless STV produces a fairer result . Anyway, all we need to know about MMP is that the more electoral seats a party wins, the more list seats it gets . Theoretically a party can win seats without any electorate, but I don't think this has been done in NZ . They need at least 5% list votes and thats harder than it sounds . One guiding principle is to vote for the local person whom you think will best represent your electorate - Labour, Progressive, Monster Raving Looney etc . And give your list vote to the party you favour . However I suspect most of us vote red/red or red/green or blue/blue, or blue/green . Picking the most decent local person comes second to politics . I seem to recall voting Green and ACT at one stage . Despite being capitalist by nature, I love this country and don't like the way the landscape is being changed . Right . Off for a tofu-on-toast, soybean Milo, and to bed . :D |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 386436 | 2005-09-06 11:16:00 | 001 is not his usual loquacious self. A benevolent dictatorship is more me Met. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 386437 | 2005-09-06 11:19:00 | Me still thinks its a ruse, perhaps to demonstate to National suporters to also give a vote to ACT,just to get them over the 5%. anyhow,there is a quiz,,, www.elections.org.nz and it seems to be aimed at toddlers.... |
Metla (12) | ||
| 386438 | 2005-09-06 11:32:00 | Thanks somebody Met and 001. With luck this will convince everbody to follow my lead. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 386439 | 2005-09-06 21:32:00 | MMP is not a simple system but easier than STV - which is better but far more complex . STV was used for the health board elections with the consequence that it took 6 weeks for the final results . Nevertheless STV produces a fairer result . Anyway, all we need to know about MMP is that the more electoral seats a party wins, the more list seats it gets . Theoretically a party can win seats without any electorate, but I don't think this has been done in NZ . They need at least 5% list votes and thats harder than it sounds . One guiding principle is to vote for the local person whom you think will best represent your electorate - Labour, Progressive, Monster Raving Looney etc . And give your list vote to the party you favour . However I suspect most of us vote red/red or red/green or blue/blue, or blue/green . Picking the most decent local person comes second to politics . I seem to recall voting Green and ACT at one stage . Despite being capitalist by nature, I love this country and don't like the way the landscape is being changed . Right . Off for a tofu-on-toast, soybean Milo, and to bed . :D More precisely, the more party votes a party gets, the more seats in parliament it gets (i . e . not just list seats) . Put very simply, if a party gets 10% of the party vote, it gets 10% of the seats in parliament (10% of 120 = 12 seats) . This is why the party vote is the more powerful vote, because it determines the number of seats in parliament it gets . |
Lizard (2409) | ||
| 386440 | 2005-09-06 22:06:00 | I would like everybody to ask of somebody close,if they understand the intricacies of the above,if the answer is yes,then I am a dutchman. | Cicero (40) | ||
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