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Thread ID: 61370 2005-09-02 10:23:00 WFTWE #170...Anthropopsychism...No joking, the US disaster is mind-boggling... Billy T (70) PC World Chat
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385510 2005-09-10 04:56:00 Surfer Joe - thanks for posting that. Ugh. How awful, horrible!!

Whoever was responsible for allowing that to happen, i.e. putting 15k people in the sports dome without organisation / National Guard - Police - Medical / ... they should be sacked - fired from their position. New Orleans Civil Defense?
Strommer (42)
385511 2005-09-10 10:45:00 Surfer Joe - thanks for posting that. Ugh. How awful, horrible!!

Whoever was responsible for allowing that to happen, i.e. putting 15k people in the sports dome without organisation / National Guard - Police - Medical / ... they should be sacked - fired from their position. New Orleans Civil Defense?

But shooting into crowds, defecating beside beds, and rape are irrational acts. Noone could expect it. Blaming the civil authorities simply ignores the fact that they couldn't anticipate such behaviour.

After all, if armed rebels in the Third World (Indonesia) could work side by side with their opponents after the tsunami, then people in a First World country should be fine.
Winston001 (3612)
385512 2005-09-10 21:38:00 But shooting into crowds, defecating beside beds, and rape are irrational acts. Noone could expect it. Blaming the civil authorities simply ignores the fact that they couldn't anticipate such behaviour.

After all, if armed rebels in the Third World (Indonesia) could work side by side with their opponents after the tsunami, then people in a First World country should be fine.

About the Aceh rebels - I recall that they did not work well with the authorities and aid workers were harassed / harmed by them. But its a good point, to compare New Orleans - Katrina, with Aceh - Tsunami; it would be a great piece of sociology / psychology / thesis / journalism.

The sports dome was quite different than Aceh, in that it was a high density of people prone to violence (druggies, gangs, lower-socio economic disadvantaged), whereas with Aceh it was a very low density of people from a Muslim society (I mean this in a positive sense, they must have a far higher standard of ethical society than those in New Orleans.

Surely the two main investigations into the disaster (Congress and The White House), plus numerous investigative journalists, will uncover the problems. It just seems so clear to me that it was a plan sure to fail terribly: to put so many people in a confined area, prone to violence and poor social standards, without any support from medical and disciplinary organisations.
Strommer (42)
385513 2005-09-10 22:10:00 FEDERAL RESPONSE: FEMA director ousted as relief leader in South

September 10, 2005

FREE PRESS NEWS SERVICES

WASHINGTON -- Under intense pressure to improve its response to Hurricane Katrina, the Bush administration on Friday abruptly removed the head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Michael Brown, from oversight of the post-storm relief effort and replaced him with Vice Adm. Thad W. Allen of the Coast Guard.

Brown, who was hailed by President George W. Bush last week for doing "a heck of a job" in responding to the disaster, was stripped of his duties after days in which the White House was pressed by lawmakers from both parties to dismiss Brown for poor performance.

See more here:
www.freep.com

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Cronyism? Brown got his job through a pal of President George W. Bush. Experience? Brown's background as an official of an Arabian-horse association became fodder for late-night comics.

So by the time charges surfaced that Brown inflated his past work experiences, even some Republicans couldn't argue with Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff's decision Friday to relieve Brown of Hurricane Katrina duties. See full article here: (PF1 URL link does not work)
www.newsday.com
Strommer (42)
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