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Thread ID: 61370	2005-09-02 10:23:00	WFTWE #170...Anthropopsychism...No joking, the US disaster is mind-boggling...	Billy T (70)	PC World Chat

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385490	2005-09-07 05:19:00	Some new insights here: The director of F . E . M . A . (http://www . fema . gov/), had a his employment prior to his appointment to the most powerful aid agency in the US was a judge of Andalusion Dancing Horse Shows . He is inept, incompetent, ignorant and totally at a loss as to what to do in such and emergency . His appointment was by President Bush 2nd . I do not see how Homeland Defense has anything to do with dancing horses, or vice versa . . . I DO understand a dancing horse's ass though . There's more: Since 9/11, FEMA has had it's teeth pulled and the Homeland Protection Agency has taken the role of emergency preparedness from FEMA . The emphasis on National Defense has been more in line with Al Quada and National Security rather than response to disasters of natural cause . The thought of terrorism in the US has by far overshadowed a lot of the things that should not have been umbra'd by that threat . With the strong possibility of things like a dirty bomb, suicide bombers and threats to water supplies, the railroads etc, the results have taken a totally different spin and gone from preventative efforts to catch-up-with-terrorism tactics . Sorry to say that this worked out to the deaths and destruction of people and homes . . . but there was not enough money to keep up two fronts, as it were . There will be heads a-rolling over this situation . . . . . . the director of FEMA has lost a lot of face here, although not as much as the people who suffered at his bumbling . Scene 1: US National Guard troops were instructed to go to and stand-by the scene of the disaster and await further orders . . . . they never came . Scene 2: Communications that were supposed to work, didn't because the broadcast stations and relay points were all without power . Scene 3: Civil authorities had their own districts to worry about, and there was a lot of diversion of assistance and persons to rescue and protect civilians to "areas of special concern" (translated to the authorities' own personal areas of concern) . Scene 4: Initiative was severly hampered because there was such a lack of communication . . . wrong frequencies; inability to cross-communicate with neighboring units; out of date and antiquidated communications devices; jurisdictional priorities and lack of sensing that anyone was in charge . Scene 5: Local police and emergency personel lacked a point to gather for central communication and planning . . . back-up plans and contingency measures were not in place or planned . Scene 6: People had been told to evacuate for at least 72 hours prior to the hurricane's arrival, and civil authorities never got the busses or transportation to the general population, they were commendered by the Office of Homeland Defense for official transportation, which has not yet been defined . Scene 7: Some people (about 30-35% by head count) refused to abandon their homes and properties as they thought it was another wolf cry from the government as in times past when the damage was minimal and not requiring escape to avoid death or damage . Scene 8: Monies earmarked for levee and water control improvements were deflected to civil defense (ala Office of Homeland Defense) and were mis-spent . Funds are missing as of yet and cannot be accounted for . There'll be more soon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :mad:	SurferJoe46 (51)
385491	2005-09-07 05:28:00	Joe those are effects,the other article was cause.	Cicero (40)
385492	2005-09-07 05:40:00	If you are too tired to write your own, Cicero, why don't you at least credit the actual author and source? isn't Google good? (tiadaily.com/php-bin/news/showArticle.php?id=1026) (It did seem too well written even though I disagree with it ... and a two word search threw this link to the top). I thought I was on your ignore list,so I didn't bother. :thumbs:	Cicero (40)
385493	2005-09-07 05:53:00	I thought I was on your ignore list,so I didn't bother. :thumbs: I saw it only by accident, but I'm sure others are capable of spotting plagiarism. It's rather curious that you are opposed to "welfare" bludgers but you are quite prepared to present someone else's work as your own.	Graham L (2)
385494	2005-09-07 06:07:00	I saw it only by accident, but I'm sure others are capable of spotting plagiarism. It's rather curious that you are opposed to "welfare" bludgers but you are quite prepared to present someone else's work as your own. Pedant indeed.	Cicero (40)
385495	2005-09-07 08:26:00	I saw it only by accident, but I'm sure others are capable of spotting plagiarism. It's rather curious that you are opposed to "welfare" bludgers but you are quite prepared to present someone else's work as your own.Yeah, it is easy to spot a copy and paste job of someone else's work as the style of writing is quite different to the posters. Be honest next time Cicero, and post it as a quote and give the credit to the real author. :)	Jen (38)
385496	2005-09-07 09:02:00	Yeah, it is easy to spot a copy and paste job of someone else's work as the style of writing is quite different to the posters. Be honest next time Cicero, and post it as a quote and give the credit to the real author. :) You two should get together ;) I didn't say I wrote it,simply displayed what was an interesting article. Let me know when there is a ruling from someone who matters and I will desist.	Cicero (40)
385497	2005-09-07 21:15:00	<<Some new insights here:>> Thanks, Surfer Joe . The director of FEMA should get the boot, along with a few others . The "8 Scenes" are interesting, but surely professional disaster relief agencies / think tanks - - would have considered these points . . . . but I guess not! What no one has answered, to my knowledge, is why news media crews were able to get to the sports dome with 15k people . . . but . . . . not a single relief helicopter!!!!! The whole world saw this . Duh . . . you'd think the governor, Bush, or others would have seen what the rest of us saw and . . . duh . . . "Hey, wouldn't it be a good idea to pick up the phone and call the National Guard and send in a helicopter or two . . . " (even Coca Cola sells bottled water and could have delivered - think of the international marketing opportunity lost here!) . I smell a big cover up brewing . The police will probably be the scapegoats, or some other people low on the totem pole .	Strommer (42)
385498	2005-09-08 06:56:00	I think the whipping boy is gonna be the director of FEMA . At any rate, he is dead for any future political assignments now . BTW: there are about 500 cops "missing in action" in the hurricane area . One killed himself when he heard his whole family had been destroyed . . . he took his life with his service revolver . . . but his family had NOT all died . . . they are still alive . A lot of cops just walked away from their posts . They are said to have not been able to take the carnage and deaths they saw . I will watch for more news on that part . You have to remember that these areas are all little countries in themselves . . . the Parrishes they are called, and they have individual presidents and mayors and officials . They don't like intervention by outsiders and their pride may have been some sort of mitigating reason why there was so much confusion too . It will all wash after the recovery part is done . As it is, there are about 15,000 to 19,000 people who REFUSE to leave the area yet . I'll keep all posted with what I hear and find .	SurferJoe46 (51)
385499	2005-09-08 09:59:00	A preposition is something to never end a sentence with. :lol: :D	Strommer (42)
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