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| Thread ID: 61437 | 2005-09-04 23:47:00 | Latest On MS Vista Hardware Requirements | vinref (6194) | PC World Chat |
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| 386136 | 2005-09-05 10:32:00 | The vast majority of the worlds computers use intergrated graphics,minimal ram and the slowest harddrives the manufacturers can lay their hands on.... So no, the hardware won't become common place in new machines, Instead we will have the current trend, Under-specced bottleknecked crap sold in huge numbers....***INTEREST FREE*** Quick everybody,rush down to harvey normans or the warehouse... Probably all most people need after all. Older people just want to surf the Internet and get email from friends and family. You can do this with a 486, Win95 and a cheap dialup modem. You can do this using the same hardware with Win98SE. Where the problem arises is when the Grandchildren arrive and want to use the latest game on the hardware which is adequate for the normal purpose being used. I had a look at a couple of CPUs in the September issue of PCWorld (page 31) and thought I really need one of these AMD X2 4800+ thingies until I saw the approx $1900 price tag. After that I need to buy a motherboard to suit the CPU. Then of course we want a good video card and the 7800GTX sounds good for only $1,059. Most people are surely hampered by a dialup connection when it comes to the Internet and friends sending very large pictures. The fastest computer in the world will not speed up downloads and general web surfing when connected to an ISP with a dial up connection. |
Elephant (599) | ||
| 386137 | 2005-09-05 10:44:00 | :lol: Got security? NAT is probably enough :) However, XP must be a pain on dialup, with umpteen updates to have to keep downloading, SP2, Media Player and the like. Quite obviously MS assumes everyone has a high speed connection. Extrapolating to Vista, dialup would be an impossibility. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 386138 | 2005-09-05 10:59:00 | I suspect M/S know what they are doing,time will tell. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 386139 | 2005-09-05 12:46:00 | Look on the bright side people: a number of people will ride with Microsoft and upgrade, and flog off their old but still good rigs cheaply. I have observed that the discard level (where people throw away their old computer without bothering to de-louse and sell them) is around the 500MHz/128MB/10GB mark now. And if Vista's requirements are indeed that hefty, I guess the second-hand and the "lower" spec'ed machines, especially laptops, may become a lot cheaper. Oh well, we can only wait and see... Roll on Vista, you hungry beast... |
vinref (6194) | ||
| 386140 | 2005-09-05 12:58:00 | Wow... Win3.1 takes screenshots?! Thats news to me :P |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 386141 | 2005-09-05 23:28:00 | forced ?.......in a way.......as i'm a tech I'll need to install it on something so that I can play with it and work out its idiosyncrasies etc.......ins'n'outs y'know........dammit........ Yeah - other peoples PCs. The new PCs will have it bundled with it so plenty of opportunity to get call outs and fix its nasty little problems. :-) |
pctek (84) | ||
| 386142 | 2005-09-06 00:01:00 | Most of the time, the holes people find to dig at are so small in the grand scheme of things when you compare it to the overall abilities of their products | Cicero (40) | ||
| 386143 | 2005-09-06 01:03:00 | I hear they're putting in a ................. limiter.Limiter?? Sure for audio, but in a general purpose computer? | personthingy (1670) | ||
| 386144 | 2005-09-06 03:18:00 | Hope you guys read the whole article. Sounds really nasty. Big trouble in little Hollywood "The horse has really bolted with respect to DVDs. They're out there, people cannibalise them all the time with DVD decrypters and people can get movies off them like there's no tomorrow. "The industry needed something much better to deal with the piracy problem. Studios said in a high-def world, we're going to have to have a very different way of viewing content. "In Longhorn, the computer determines that a video card is not faked or being intercepted, so there's a lot of onus on the writers of the drivers. It also checks If there are digital or analogue drivers. If only digital outputs are in use, it will then check a display has HDCP capability – high bandwidth digital content protection. The communication between the video card and the device is encrypted and only decrypted by the display device itself. If all that is true, the operating system says, "ok, gotcha, we are running on a protected video path which is OK for premium content… HD-DVDs, BluRay, or a video file that someone has marked." "If you don't comply with PVP, we're going to downscale the quality upon playback… you're going to get a lower quality version; you're not going to get the high def content the way it was intended to be viewed. You'll find that most plasma displays have HDCP already. But this isn't available in computer monitors. I have not been able to find a single monitor that supports it. We are going to see a lot of change in this space. "We have more information at Output Content Protection and Windows Longhorn "The hardware vendors all know about it but aren't yet making monitors with it built in, so now it's up to you [the users] to say, "where's my HDCP?" "There's a LOT of encryption and decryption going on. We communicate on the PCI Express bus in a fully encrypted format because it is considered a public bus. "The downside is that all your existing flat panel monitors and projectors aren't going to work with high-def videos in Vista. Bad news." |
E|im (87) | ||
| 386145 | 2005-09-06 03:29:00 | Bad news for Vista. Still, it will only requre a work-around, their isn't an encrption yet that hasn't been broken, No doubt we will have a HD-DVD ripper in no time at all which will rip the content and ditch the protection,allowing full quiality play-back on any screen. Not that I can see HD-DVD making any inroads into NZ for years to come, The Video hire industry isn't going to restock just for the sake of 12 people with HD-TV's and players,and 6 people who manage to buy a Vista rig,HD-Drive and compatible screen. Should rename it Windows Turkey. |
Metla (12) | ||
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