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| Thread ID: 61680 | 2005-09-13 03:50:00 | Download Statutes as PDF? | Ash M (46) | PC World Chat |
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| 388103 | 2005-09-18 03:07:00 | Okay what about printed copies? Anyone know where I can purchase those? Whitcoulls seems to be the most common outlet since they took over Bennetts Bookshops which in turn took over from the Government Bookshops. There is a Bennetts on the corner of Lambton Quay and Bowen Street in Wellington if you are ever there. Not sure about Auckland. You can also order them over the internet via GP legislation: www.knowledge-basket.co.nz |
John H (8) | ||
| 388104 | 2005-09-18 03:08:00 | The Government Printer used to be a govenment department. They used to have shops. But the department was sold. Looks like here (www.legislationdirect.co.nz/) is the place now.. | Graham L (2) | ||
| 388105 | 2005-09-18 04:05:00 | It was alright to pay the Government Printer for printed copies of the Acts. It cost money to do the typesetting, printing and binding. I can't see any reason why they can't make them available free in computer readable form. All the Statutes & Regs are available at legislation.govt.nz (http://www.legislation.govt.nz) as searchable databases. The current site is interim only. In general the legal industry is moving away from hardcopy. If you read this link (www.pco.parliament.govt.nz) you'll see that the govt has a project on the go to create an XML based site. |
Mackin_NZ (6958) | ||
| 388106 | 2005-09-18 04:11:00 | We know that. The posting which started this thread gave that link. The original request was for a way to download electronic copies. Some people, as opposed to lawyers, still like real books. "industry" is a better description than "profession", however. ;) |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 388107 | 2005-09-18 04:18:00 | I know some people prefer books but the thing with legislation is it changes frequently so hard copies are very quickly out of date (unless your paying for a professional annotations service). The electronic databases are regularly updated so you've always got the latest version of the legislation. That's why your better off reading them on-line as opposed to downloading them. |
Mackin_NZ (6958) | ||
| 388108 | 2005-09-18 09:01:00 | Some people, as opposed to lawyers, still like real books. "industry" is a better description than "profession", however. ;) Oooooooooooooooooooooo :o :o We know our place. :badpc: But this is one Luddite who also prefers books. The problem is Graham, graduates learn electronic research - which has it's place - and it doesn't occur to them to use books at all. I'd bet there are people here who have that view. And Mackin - the vast majority of statutes and regulations do not change from year to year. Furthermore the electronic database expunges the old law and only shows the change as if it had always been the law. Have a look for the Guardianship Act 1968. Nadda. Now thats not a lot of help if you need to know what the law was when your client was last in court, or to make sense of a statutory reference in an existing contract. If you have the book, the original law is still there. However electronic searching is a great tool, it just needs to be combined with a certain amount of good old fashioned book reading. :D |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 388109 | 2005-09-18 12:21:00 | And Mackin - the vast majority of statutes and regulations do not change from year to year . Furthermore the electronic database expunges the old law and only shows the change as if it had always been the law . Have a look for the Guardianship Act 1968 . Nadda . Winston, you are right that much legislation does not change but there's also plenty that does . And lots of new stuff is added . And as for repealed or historical leg, you are also correct that it is removed from the FREE on-line databases but it's still there in the paid for ones supplied by legal publishers . If you subscribe to Brookers Onllne you will find the Guardianship Act 1968 in the Repealed Acts section . |
Mackin_NZ (6958) | ||
| 388110 | 2005-09-18 21:52:00 | (snip)If you subscribe to Brookers Onllne you will find the Guardianship Act 1968 in the Repealed Acts section . And the reason why anyone other than a lawyer (who can charge out megadollars per hour) would subscribe to Brookers Online is? :rolleyes: Or is the myth still alive that only lawyers need to read statutes? Or the other one that only lawyers understand them, therefore legislation only needs to be made available to lawyers? I think the Gumberment has moved on from those ideas, but it still hasn't got it right . Of course if they made whole statutes (or even Parts of statutes) downloadable, they would drastically reduce their market for sales of printed copies . Though I doubt they make a profit on those sales anyway . |
John H (8) | ||
| 388111 | 2005-09-18 22:42:00 | John, Anyone can read the current statutes and regulations by going to www.legislation.govt.nz (http://www.legislation.govt.nz). This is part of the Public Access to Legislation (PAL) project the govt has been working on for a while now. Why don't you visit the site and have a look. Winston was referring to repealed legislation which is not available on the free site. Repealed leg (and other enhancements) are provided by the various legal publishers in their paid for products. |
Mackin_NZ (6958) | ||
| 388112 | 2005-09-18 23:13:00 | John, Anyone can read the current statutes and regulations by going to www.legislation.govt.nz (http://www.legislation.govt.nz). This is part of the Public Access to Legislation (PAL) project the govt has been working on for a while now. Why don't you visit the site and have a look. (snip) Mackin - I think you need to read this thread from the beginning. |
John H (8) | ||
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