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Thread ID: 61796 2005-09-17 00:56:00 Online Voting? pctek (84) PC World Chat
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388884 2005-09-17 10:06:00 They could use a secure server and only have computer voting at the polling booths. The benefit is the votes would be counted in an instant and we'd know straight away who'd won. Paper is a waste of resources and time, there's a smarter way to do it.


Now thats a good point. PJ
Poppa John (284)
388885 2005-09-17 10:20:00 They could use a secure server and only have computer voting at the polling booths. The benefit is the votes would be counted in an instant and we'd know straight away who'd won. Paper is a waste of resources and time, there's a smarter way to do it.

and if i was the man who wrote the programs on that "secure server" i could put in a bit of exra code that changes 1 in every hundred to the party i like most :-)
robsonde (120)
388886 2005-09-17 10:28:00 I have already voted online.

.. but it sounds as though it didn't count.

Surely, a PressF1 Poll is official enough :p
gibler (49)
388887 2005-09-18 22:33:00 ... Paper is a waste of resources and time, there's a smarter way to do it.The paper trail is essential for recounts. The computer booths/stations made by dibold were just scary. they ran to a flat access DB that you could open with a double click. If you got physical access to one you could alter the numbers from an entire poling booth just buy typing the new totals into a cell.

You *need* two things for electronic poling booths.
1) A hard copy for running a recount, in case of system failure etc.
2) The source code available for review. So that backdoors can be spotted/removed

Something that the US failed to do.

-Qyiet
qyiet (6730)
388888 2005-09-19 00:26:00 pctek You could get your friends' cards and use their vote. May be that being friends they may vote the same way anyway and if as is sometimes the case friend's have got the wrong end of the political stick and give you their vote anyway then that's up to them. their loss. If they can't be bothered then yes they are giving it away.

You'd have to make sure you went to a polling place where you weren't known which would be easy in urban areas.

Don't know of any safeguard against this.

As for the "they just cross you off on the roll", - all the rolls are collated so you can't vote twice. (And if you do you don't get a vote at all.)
HTH............m :)
mark c (247)
388889 2005-09-20 02:18:00 Well I think it is a good idea, but only at polling booths until we have secure personal home pc identification. Using retina scans would do.

But more simply, why not have weekly referenda on issues. It would be an easy way for MPs top get a feel for what the population think.

There are issues such as access, careful wording of questions, background info etc, but it could work. Already MPs during the election campaign were watching online polls.
Winston001 (3612)
388890 2005-09-20 02:31:00 Walking/driving/crawling to the polling booth once every three years is not what is stopping people from voting.

It is pure, unadulturated apathy. And that is caused by many many things, but not the lack of on-line voting facilities, although I wouldn't be too suprised if it lifted the voting turnout by a few percentages.
vinref (6194)
388891 2005-09-20 02:58:00 There is no good reason why we cant vote on line, all the rubbish about being hacked/cracked is for the movies.

As far as voting more than once pctek has already pointed out how easily this can be done, but there can only be up to one vote for each registered voter, so this would be easily detected if cheating was supected.

Although they would have to hold the results untill 7pm you would get an almost instant result then having to wait untill all the oldies votes were counted, I'm sure it would be over in less than a couple of hours.
Rob99 (151)
388892 2005-09-20 05:47:00 Computer voting in some form or another (prob not over the net) will happen eventually . At the moment there's still about a quarter of the population who are computer illerate and determined to remain so .

I don't see the speed being such a big deal . I like the whole election night process anyway . Always have some people around or go to someone's place and we have a few drinks and tasty bits of this and that . It's fun .

Even if you loose . Then you can have a big group whinge :D
mark c (247)
388893 2005-09-20 06:17:00 They could use a secure server and only have computer voting at the polling booths. The benefit is the votes would be counted in an instant and we'd know straight away who'd won. Paper is a waste of resources and time, there's a smarter way to do it.
Do you read all your news on the internet??
Paper or the use of it is my source of income, so no it's not a waste of resources..
plod (107)
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