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Thread ID: 90072 2008-05-22 06:12:00 How long should a motherboard last for? mntbkrnzl (13771) Press F1
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671532 2008-05-23 00:16:00 Quanta, Compal and Wistron. These 3 also produce notebooks for HP, Dell and Lenovo.

Apple iBooks and Sony VIAO are made by Asus. Quanta also make the MacBook Air



Clevo makes the Sager NP9262, the Alienware Area 51, the Voodoo Envy, the Hypersonic Aero .
Compal makes some of the the DELL, Hewlett Packard and Compaqs.

Quanta makes many of the Dell Latitude and Lenovo (IBM laptops.

Asustek currently has notebook orders from Apple computer, Sony, Samsung Electronics and JVC. They also make their own.
pctek (84)
671533 2008-05-23 00:21:00 Here is the CGA Site, by the way is law.
www.consumeraffairs.govt.nz
Here is another site you might need. Disputes Tribunal.
justice.org.nz
:)
Trev (427)
671534 2008-05-23 00:29:00 To clarify what I said above re warranty periods. The period is, more often than not, considered a minimum, not a maximum life expectancy. Murray P (44)
671535 2008-05-23 02:30:00 The questions that need to be asked is:

a) Is it fit for purpose,

b) Does the period of use fall in to the reasonable expectation of a consumer (note consumer, not a manufacturer or retailer, a repair person, etc) or does/did it fall short.The highlighted section is wide open to an argument / Difference, what is a reasonable expectation to one person is completely different to some one else.

Heres an example, being a tech my self I KNOW that PC components can and do fail on a regular basis, so how long would I expect a MD to last - maybe 2-3 years - NOW if some one else who has a different view, they may say 7-10 years.
wainuitech (129)
671536 2008-05-23 02:43:00 As I said, "note consumer, not a manufacturer or retailer, a repair person, etc". Trades or experts in the field do not fall within the definition the average consumer. It is not a technical question, nor is the answer.

There are guidelines of what the expectation could be out there (see Consumer). In the event of a (more formal) dispute, what it often comes down to is the perception of whoever is chairing the hearing.

Mostly it boils down to common sense,for example: if you spent $1000-$5000 on a non-perishable product, is 18 months a reasonable life expectation? Most people would say quite emphatically no.

I suggest it matters little if the product has shonky parts or well made parts, it's the end use and how it functions that matters. In fact, if a product has cheap parts but functions perfectly well for a good period of time, that's an excellent product in my view.


BTW, excuse my ignorance, but what is an MD, apart from my first two initials?
Murray P (44)
671537 2008-05-23 03:33:00 One thing with computers and time expectations and this will always be point, is a Desktop PC I would expect to last longer than A laptop.

By their very nature, a laptop is less likely to last as long as a desktop PC, any electronic device that is subjected to bumps, banging around will fail quicker.

laptops = Portable, shorter life.

Desktops = usually don't get moved about that much. I get a few calls from customers who say the PC (desktop) was working fine, it got moved to their new house and now wont go - damaged in moving about.


excuse my ignorance, but what is an MD, apart from my first two initials Sorry my typo, should have been MB = Motherboard
wainuitech (129)
671538 2008-05-23 03:43:00 Ahhh! Cheers for that, I hate to be so uncool as to be not up with the latest acronyms.


Re the shorter lappy life. Yeah, I think that is a reasonable expectation, most people should know that, or at least consider it (which isn't quite the same as they do). By the same token, a lappy touted as a desktop replacement, should in theory, approach the same sort of life expectation as a desktop, as long as you're not expecting to lug it around too much.

How about gaming PCs, should one expect it to take the move from lan party to lan party and back home again? If it has a handle and wheels, I'd think you might have a strong claim, because they, the manufacturer, are actually encouraging you to move it around. Disclaimers in the fine print regarding transport probably will not save them in a claim in that case. Hence my remarks about fit for purpose and misrepresentation.
Murray P (44)
671539 2008-05-23 04:29:00 :thumbs: That what I was thinking / meaning, when you mention gaming / Lan Party PC's - While they are a desktop,with some of the hardware in some of them they are not exactly the lightest to carry far, maybe from the house to car .

Some customers PC's with 2 or 3 more drives, and god knows what else are damn heavy . Get some strange looks sometimes walking through the middle of wellington with a Desktop PC and usually a load of software/ boxes under arms . :waughh:
wainuitech (129)
671540 2008-05-23 05:11:00 OP, go for them. Read the CGA and listen to Murray. There is no way a reasonable consumer would say 18 months is fair and reasonable life. The retailer/manufacturer is having you on.

Good luck.
linw (53)
671541 2008-05-23 05:16:00 One thing with computers and time expectations and this will always be point, is a Desktop PC I would expect to last longer than A laptop.

Yes.
And laptop parts are fragile. Take a look at the DVD for instance, open the tray and the entire guts comes with it.

As for what you spend on the PC, MurrayP, thats irrelevant.
PCs are known to be obsolete in 5 minutes, makes no difference if you paid $5000 for it.

3 years is a reasonable time for a motherboard, after 3 years a lot of people won't care because they'll be getting another.

Its why I tell people brand of the PARTS matters, not the label on the outside of the case.

I've seen ASUS boards 9 years old and still happily going.
pctek (84)
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